| 28 Aug 2023 |
 K900 ⚡️ | Should we remove ours? | 10:58:31 |
| K900 ⚡️ | Also, no, it does not work great for you, because basically zero applications are actually color space aware | 10:58:46 |
| K900 ⚡️ | It "works" as in you're seeing different colors | 10:58:53 |
 Nadim Kobeissi | Come on, this is about having a desktop that ships with a good set of basic features | 10:58:55 |
| K900 ⚡️ | But they're not correct colors | 10:58:56 |
| Nadim Kobeissi | K900 ⚡️: That's not true; I loaded a profile made with a colorimeter and Krita, Firefox and others are showing better colors | 10:59:27 |
| K900 ⚡️ | To make them actually correct would require big infrastructure work that is currently being done by wlroots/Valve people | 10:59:30 |
| K900 ⚡️ | "Better" is still not "correct" | 10:59:38 |
| K900 ⚡️ | Again, if you think this is better, you can enable it and use it on your system | 11:00:11 |
| Nadim Kobeissi | Don't you think this is a pessimist attitude? I think this software is lightweight and provides a basic and useful set of features, including it is better than not | 11:00:17 |
| K900 ⚡️ | But we should not be shipping it by default because then people will expect it to work correctly | 11:00:25 |
| Nadim Kobeissi | It's not bloat or anything | 11:00:25 |
| K900 ⚡️ | And it does not | 11:00:28 |
| Nadim Kobeissi | It's just settings support for color profiles... | 11:00:31 |
| Nadim Kobeissi | I don't understand. The tool correctly applied my color profile | 11:00:55 |
| Nadim Kobeissi | How is it performing "incorrectly"? | 11:01:10 |
| K900 ⚡️ | It's incorrect because it doesn't actually use the color information from the source images | 11:02:35 |
| K900 ⚡️ | Because there's no standard interface for providing that information from applications to the display server | 11:02:50 |
| K900 ⚡️ | This is being addressed on the Wayland side and the application side | 11:03:06 |
| K900 ⚡️ | And it will eventually work actually correctly | 11:03:25 |
| K900 ⚡️ | I'd give you a link to the discussions, but the freedesktop.org gitlab has been dead for two days | 11:03:44 |
| K900 ⚡️ | https://emersion.fr/blog/2023/hdr-hackfest-wrap-up/ is probably as good of a summary of current work as I can give you for now | 11:04:39 |
| Nadim Kobeissi | OK, there seems to be an effort to improve how color profiles get applied in Linux, but I still think we should have this color profile settings panel installed and enabled by default. It does a good job, it's not bloat, it's an official part of the KDE Desktop, etc. etc. -- it's a good settings panel! | 11:08:20 |
| Nadim Kobeissi | I'll fix colord-kde to begin with, but after that, we should consider integrating it by default. | 11:08:52 |
| K900 ⚡️ | It's extremely misleading is what it is | 11:08:55 |
| Nadim Kobeissi | By that token most of Linux is misleading :P | 11:09:17 |
| K900 ⚡️ | Not really, no | 11:09:29 |
| K900 ⚡️ | Also, if you want a Reference Document, here's the official packaging recommendations for distributions: https://community.kde.org/Distributions/Packaging_Recommendations | 11:09:50 |
| K900 ⚡️ | That we mostly follow | 11:09:57 |
| K900 ⚡️ | Note that colord is not on the list of recommended packages to preinstall | 11:10:06 |
