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@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)vlc or jellyfin qt6 first?16:21:01
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywell VLC doesn't pull in WebEngine so I care less16:21:18
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywhat I was wondering is whether we can drop it16:21:25
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilybut it sounds like not before 26.05 probably16:21:30
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)vlc doesn't do wayland-native, so i kinda care...16:21:42
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)but yeah16:21:50
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)tbh, we should get that qt5 plasma drop merged within the next few days and migrate some of the optionals away from qtwebengine, after that just hit it and let the swarm descent16:22:41
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)* tbh, we should get that qt5 plasma drop merged within the next few days and migrate some of the optionals away from qtwebengine, after that just hit it and let the swarm descend16:22:45
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)worked decently well in libsoup ocne we were under 100 users: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/42781316:23:20
@marie:marie.cologneMarie it does but it's a bit broken so they default to x11 16:23:54
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywe need to backport the mark though16:24:31
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilybut it's probably fine16:24:32
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythat libsoup thing should also be backported but the fallout seems bad16:24:40
@k900:0upti.meK900 No it's not? 16:25:20
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)we had most of the libsoup migrations merged before 25.05 for a reason16:25:19
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily actually isn't fcitx5-chinese-addons sort of important 16:25:23
@k900:0upti.meK900It's pretty active16:25:26
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI know fcitx is very popular with Chinese users16:25:29
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilybut not sure if that package specifically is16:25:35
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)

https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/398783#issuecomment-2824682603

We need this no matter what since it is security relevant and will block further security updates in the future.

Sandro actually had a good point here. And as such on 25.05 the libsoup2 usage is below 100 too

16:26:27
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyhttps://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin-media-player/pull/599 😔16:26:41
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywell I just mean I see people complaining regularly about all their stuff being broken because of it16:27:00
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all) but thats offtopic here, would continue that in #security-discuss:nixos.org , lets get back to qtwebengine 16:27:08
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilybackporting that kind of stuff hurts16:27:06
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI'm satisfied by the list here though, I think we can move forward with it16:27:20
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI don't think we need to block Plasma removal on it16:27:34
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyer, vice versa16:27:42
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilybecause it's just … choosing what error people get16:27:44
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)fair enough16:27:54
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyor at least we can get a PR up marking it as vulnerable and land them together16:27:57

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