| 13 Aug 2025 |
 ElvishJerricco | what am I saying I can just check these things | 17:31:45 |
| ElvishJerricco | Ok, 33M | 17:34:13 |
| ElvishJerricco | And realistically the only thing that ought to differ between them is the kernel modules | 17:34:23 |
| ElvishJerricco | * Ok, 33M for each of the two of them | 17:34:40 |
| ElvishJerricco | so what we'd really want to do is split modules from user space and share the user space | 17:34:59 |
| ElvishJerricco | but we're definitely getting into "the ISO is more custom crazy shit" territory with that | 17:35:13 |
 K900 ⚡️ | I don't think 33M is worth it | 17:35:25 |
| K900 ⚡️ | tbh | 17:35:30 |
 emily | well | 17:35:57 |
| ElvishJerricco | I might think it was worth it if we were getting the benefit for all nixos configs / boot loader scripts. But we don't use the boot loader scripts in the ISO | 17:36:02 |
| emily | outside of the initrd we ship like 800 megs of firmware | 17:36:03 |
| emily | so that kinda sucks | 17:36:05 |
| emily | but I dunno how much of that we could reasonably drop | 17:36:10 |
| K900 ⚡️ | I would almost argue that ISO size isn't a real problem | 17:36:57 |
| K900 ⚡️ | tbqg | 17:37:00 |
| K900 ⚡️ | * | 17:37:04 |
 Grimmauld (any/all) | but also, do we actually need samba in the iso? | 17:37:10 |
| ElvishJerricco | is that only there because of zfs or does something else pull it in? | 17:37:31 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | its in top-level | 17:37:44 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | as in, systemPackages or something | 17:37:50 |
| ElvishJerricco | huh... | 17:37:53 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | unless i am reading nix-tree wrong, which is not impossible | 17:38:11 |
| K900 ⚡️ | I think we do because you may want to copy stuff from a Windows share | 17:38:33 |
| K900 ⚡️ | To the ISO | 17:38:38 |
| ElvishJerricco | that sounds like a use case we shouldn't actually give a shit about lol | 17:38:56 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | no, its kdenetwork-filesharing turning on samba apparently? | 17:39:25 |
| ElvishJerricco | I dunno how possible it is to get samba out of zfs though; I know no one who uses zfs thinks you should use its smb features | 17:39:44 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | * ~~no, its kdenetwork-filesharing turning on samba apparently?~~ wrong direction | 17:44:34 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | nix why-depends is utterly useless with the iso, it looses all knowledge about dependency chains... | 17:44:54 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | * nix why-depends is utterly useless with the iso, it looses knowledge about dependency chains... | 17:44:59 |
