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@k900:0upti.meK900Only opencl output17:28:35
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyah17:28:40
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccoI believe you can with grub or maybe limine but pretty sure not with syslinux or systemd-boot17:30:11
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerricco might have to check for systemd-boot; it adopted the linux initrd efi protocol a year or two ago and might be able to do it; I just doubt they bothered 17:30:42
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerricco(is the initrd really that much of a space cost in the iso though, that deduplicating it would help much?)17:31:11
@k900:0upti.meK900Probably yes because firmware17:31:24
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccodo we put much firmware in the initrd in the iso?17:31:39
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccowhat am I saying I can just check these things17:31:45
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccoOk, 33M17:34:13
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccoAnd realistically the only thing that ought to differ between them is the kernel modules17:34:23
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerricco* Ok, 33M for each of the two of them17:34:40
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccoso what we'd really want to do is split modules from user space and share the user space17:34:59
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccobut we're definitely getting into "the ISO is more custom crazy shit" territory with that17:35:13
@k900:0upti.meK900I don't think 33M is worth it17:35:25
@k900:0upti.meK900tbh17:35:30
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywell17:35:57
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccoI might think it was worth it if we were getting the benefit for all nixos configs / boot loader scripts. But we don't use the boot loader scripts in the ISO17:36:02
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyoutside of the initrd we ship like 800 megs of firmware17:36:03
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyso that kinda sucks17:36:05
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilybut I dunno how much of that we could reasonably drop17:36:10
@k900:0upti.meK900 I would almost argue that ISO size isn't a real problem 17:36:57
@k900:0upti.meK900tbqg17:37:00
@k900:0upti.meK900 * 17:37:04
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all) but also, do we actually need samba in the iso? 17:37:10
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccois that only there because of zfs or does something else pull it in?17:37:31
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)its in top-level17:37:44
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)as in, systemPackages or something17:37:50
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccohuh...17:37:53
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)unless i am reading nix-tree wrong, which is not impossible17:38:11
@k900:0upti.meK900 I think we do because you may want to copy stuff from a Windows share 17:38:33

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