| 13 Aug 2025 |
 Grimmauld (any/all) | wtf there is samba 4.22.3 now, why are we so behind?? | 17:25:29 |
 K900 | It's not just llvmpipe | 17:26:40 |
| K900 | It's also radeonsi | 17:26:47 |
 emily | so it needs the host platform and GCN I guess? | 17:27:13 |
| K900 | That won't do much | 17:27:57 |
| K900 | Most of LLVM is passes | 17:28:00 |
| emily | uh so how come Mesa pulls in libclang but I don't see it in the closure | 17:28:28 |
| K900 | Only opencl output | 17:28:35 |
| emily | ah | 17:28:40 |
 ElvishJerricco | I believe you can with grub or maybe limine but pretty sure not with syslinux or systemd-boot | 17:30:11 |
| ElvishJerricco | might have to check for systemd-boot; it adopted the linux initrd efi protocol a year or two ago and might be able to do it; I just doubt they bothered | 17:30:42 |
| ElvishJerricco | (is the initrd really that much of a space cost in the iso though, that deduplicating it would help much?) | 17:31:11 |
| K900 | Probably yes because firmware | 17:31:24 |
| ElvishJerricco | do we put much firmware in the initrd in the iso? | 17:31:39 |
| ElvishJerricco | what am I saying I can just check these things | 17:31:45 |
| ElvishJerricco | Ok, 33M | 17:34:13 |
| ElvishJerricco | And realistically the only thing that ought to differ between them is the kernel modules | 17:34:23 |
| ElvishJerricco | * Ok, 33M for each of the two of them | 17:34:40 |
| ElvishJerricco | so what we'd really want to do is split modules from user space and share the user space | 17:34:59 |
| ElvishJerricco | but we're definitely getting into "the ISO is more custom crazy shit" territory with that | 17:35:13 |
| K900 | I don't think 33M is worth it | 17:35:25 |
| K900 | tbh | 17:35:30 |
| emily | well | 17:35:57 |
| ElvishJerricco | I might think it was worth it if we were getting the benefit for all nixos configs / boot loader scripts. But we don't use the boot loader scripts in the ISO | 17:36:02 |
| emily | outside of the initrd we ship like 800 megs of firmware | 17:36:03 |
| emily | so that kinda sucks | 17:36:05 |
| emily | but I dunno how much of that we could reasonably drop | 17:36:10 |
| K900 | I would almost argue that ISO size isn't a real problem | 17:36:57 |
| K900 | tbqg | 17:37:00 |
| K900 | * | 17:37:04 |
