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23 Jun 2025
	asshall joined the room.	09:19:34
asshall	Frankly I both a noob with KDE stuff and nix so what follow might be painful ^^ I'm trying to get kde mobile up to date and for now what I've started to do is replicate `/nixos/modules/services/x11/desktop-managers/plasma5.nix` modularity into `/nixos/modules/services/desktop-managers/plasma6.nix`. Issue is I frankly have no idea what configuration is strictly needed for mobile/desktop. Is there some tool/documentation that could help with that, or should I do it the painful way and remove stuff one by one ? (which really doesn't seem like a good idea)	09:27:14
K900	No, there really isn't	09:28:22
asshall	While I'm at it i'll rapid fire questions and excuse myself for the spam in advance 1: I see there are `pkgs.plasma5Packages`, `pkgs.kdePackages`, `pkgs.libForQt5` sets, I'm unsure where those are created, but anyways my point is the `pkgs.plasma5Packages.plasmaMobileGear` (even though I can't find it trough repl) seems useful. Should I be replicated for plasma6 ? 2: Should plasma common configuration (talking about plasma5 module's desktop/mobile/bigscreen configs) be the lightest it can be ? My rational is that for mobile devices with hardware constraints it seems beneficial. However it could be a lot of work ^^ 3: Seeing the `CONTRIBUTING.md` file in nixpkgs repo, it says commit should be atomic, so should the first commit simply add the mobile options and install mobile only apps. And next commits clean the common configuration ? 4: I'm seeing `pkgs/kde/generated/dependencies.json` is this generated using an external tool or is it a part of nixpkgs I'm not aware of ? I'll stop there for my own sanity an you folks ^^	09:39:08
asshall	So how did you manage ? A lot of build-vm and patience ?	09:39:33
K900	1) No, there is no Plasma Mobile Gear set in 6.x 2) Can't answer, need to decide on a case by case basis 3) You can have any order you want as long as it doesn't break things, though I'd maybe even consider putting the mobile bits into an entirely separate module 4) It's generated by the scripts in `maintainers/scripts/kde/`	09:49:07
K900	There's packaging guidelines for Plasma Desktop	09:49:14
K900	https://community.kde.org/Distributions/Packaging_Recommendations	09:50:35
asshall	What would be the rationale ? I'm blissfully unaware of plasma inner working but from what I gather on the plasma mobile repo is that It's a superset of plasma desktop, shouldn't nix config should more or less be desktop config (minus graphical apps that don't scale) plus mobile apps ? `services.xserver.desktopManager.plasma6.mobile` seems like an adequate enough option ?	09:56:35
K900	It's not a superset, no	09:57:12
K900	It's built on much of the same tech, but it's not a strict superset	09:57:35
asshall	Or it might just be I didn't understand you answer, but creating a new module would mean having something like `services.xserver.desktopManager.plasma6-mobile` right ?	09:57:37
K900	Not necessarily	09:57:46
K900	The option naming isn't directly related to the module layout	09:57:54
asshall	So then I'll need to read a bit more on the module system, to at least get it working on my end, I'll try to replicate plasma5 module as to not complicate things for me I think.	10:00:22
24 Jun 2025
K900	https://kde.org/announcements/changelogs/plasma/6/6.4.0-6.4.1/	12:00:39
K900	Gonna get this going in maybe 30 minutes	12:00:48
K900	https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/419554	12:51:33
28 Jun 2025
	Michalis joined the room.	19:50:19
Michalis	How would one go about packaging a (python) krunner plugin for nix? I'm trying to package this to use with home-manager https://github.com/mpardalos/KRunner-SSH. Is there any examples I can follow?	20:06:20
Michalis	What I tried so far is here: https://github.com/mpardalos/KRunner-SSH/tree/nix	20:13:46
K900	Yeah none of that is correct basically	20:27:44
K900	You want to install to $out/share	20:27:47
K900	And you want fully qualified paths everywhere	20:27:54
K900	Nothing like $PWD	20:28:04
K900	And you have external dependencies	20:28:26
K900	So you want to treat this like a Python package	20:28:30
Michalis	Makes sense	20:33:19
Michalis	In reply to @k900:0upti.me Yeah none of that is correct basically Yeah thought so lol	20:33:37
Michalis	Once I have that packaged up correctly, is there some standard way to install it, or do I manually place each of the files with home-manager?	20:35:02

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