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21 Feb 2025
@k900:0upti.meK900And they've done this before18:37:40
@k900:0upti.meK900As in, announce a EOL date then break it18:37:47
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilymhm18:39:13
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily but it seems like it would be a good idea to prepare for the eventuality we have to knownVulnerabilities it on stable 18:39:23
@k900:0upti.meK900Very possible18:39:35
@ilya-fedin:matrix.orgπ™Όπš›. π™±πš˜πš πš•πšŽπš› πš π™·πšŠπšperhaps there's some incompatibility between the way krdp uses libx264 and freerdp uses libopenh264?19:51:18
@ilya-fedin:matrix.orgπ™Όπš›. π™±πš˜πš πš•πšŽπš› πš π™·πšŠπš* perhaps there's some incompatibility between the way krdp uses libx264 and the way freerdp uses libopenh264?19:51:28
@ilya-fedin:matrix.orgπ™Όπš›. π™±πš˜πš πš•πšŽπš› πš π™·πšŠπši guess we won't get answers any time soon, krdp reports seem to be unassigned19:52:13
@aidalgol:matrix.orgaidalgol Does plasma-plasmashell crash or lock up often for anyone else? 19:56:38
@k900:0upti.meK900Not for me 21:03:39
@k900:0upti.meK900Get a stacktrace?21:04:00
@aidalgol:matrix.orgaidalgolNot recently. How would I get one next time it happens?21:12:34
@k900:0upti.meK900 coredumpctl debug 21:13:07
@aidalgol:matrix.orgaidalgolAnd what about when it just freezes but doesn't crash? I sometimes have to restart the systemd user service to make it responsive again.21:14:05
@ilya-fedin:matrix.orgπ™Όπš›. π™±πš˜πš πš•πšŽπš› πš π™·πšŠπš you can try to kill -ABRT it 22:12:48
22 Feb 2025
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧
In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
but it seems like it would be a good idea to prepare for the eventuality we have to knownVulnerabilities it on stable
Again If we would just still compile that software no one would complain
12:01:30
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧But since we don't it is like taking people still using that software from behind with no lube12:01:59
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧and we probably waste a bunch of compute for nothing12:02:17
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧
In reply to @ilya-fedin:matrix.org
i guess we won't get answers any time soon, krdp reports seem to be unassigned
Last time I opened an issue I got response about it a week after but no fix
12:03:08
@ilya-fedin:matrix.orgπ™Όπš›. π™±πš˜πš πš•πšŽπš› πš π™·πšŠπšthey were saying my trace with kpipewire is due to something with kwallet so...12:05:25
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧NotLikeThat12:16:10
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily
In reply to @sandro:supersandro.de
Again If we would just still compile that software no one would complain
not sure what the point of reiterating this discussion every time vulnerable packages come up is. it was hashed out pretty thoroughly on the PR.
14:00:05
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧because you're argumentation is wrong and it is hurting being honest about vulnerable packages and still allowing people to use software14:01:21
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily no, we just disagree about what Hydra should build. afaict you're the only person who considers that a reason that web browser engines with critical CVEs shouldn't be marked knownVulnerabilities though. 14:03:25
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧because I know people who do not have compile server flying around 20:03:37
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧and for them to use some software that requires hours compiling on their laptop is actually a very big problem20:05:56
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧also retroactively bricking peoples setups on stable just because of that with no option out is especially stupid20:08:15
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧if a config flip would just download the precompiled software again, that would be fine and actionable but then also having to compile the software is just stupid20:08:56
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI really don't feel like relitigating this every couple weeks when there's a security issue.20:46:54
23 Feb 2025
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