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26 Nov 2022
@k900:0upti.meK900So at least the three of mine from today and anything else that shows up between now and then 13:51:15
@k900:0upti.meK900Also, I think quiterss might need to be retested 13:55:34
@k900:0upti.meK900It sounds like it might be crashing in X11 stuff when I'm running Wayland 13:56:00
@samueldr:matrix.orgsamueldrI'm thinking it's likely possible to make a plasma submodules-based module for configuring most of plasma through the NixOS config... but I think the main impediment is the lack of upstream "declaration" of config options22:39:39
@samueldr:matrix.orgsamueldr so e.g. tracking new options in kglobalshortcutsrc 22:39:58
@samueldr:matrix.orgsamueldr to date, except plasmoids and gtk, globals configured as immutable under /etc/xdg seem to work just fine 22:41:04
@samueldr:matrix.orgsamueldr though I'd evaluate my current progress as ~50% of files splatted into .config by plasma 22:41:41
@samueldr:matrix.orgsamueldrone thing that is harder to handle that it needs to be is state vs. config being mixed23:35:59
28 Nov 2022
@k900:0upti.meK900Bad news: I found more Qt 5.14 packages08:29:29
@k900:0upti.meK900Good news: they seem to build with 5.1508:29:34
@k900:0upti.meK900https://blog.broulik.de/2022/11/introducing-kio-afc/12:28:06
@k900:0upti.meK900Something we'll probably want to enable for the next Frameworks release 12:28:16
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧Is the MTP counterpart for someone else broken, too? Never got it working with my devices.13:38:07
@k900:0upti.meK900It's really device dependent13:38:32
@k900:0upti.meK900MTP is a horrible horrible protocol13:38:37
29 Nov 2022
@k900:0upti.meK900https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/20360414:03:46
@k900:0upti.meK900New Plasma patch release14:03:50
1 Dec 2022
@samueldr:matrix.orgsamueldrany tips to figure out why Qt/QML apps are broken at runtime?04:14:37
@samueldr:matrix.orgsamueldrone of them (audiotube) seemingly can't start playback of multimedia stuff, but no errors, no crashes, nothing04:15:07
@samueldr:matrix.orgsamueldrthe other (plasmatube) all the playback controls, except play/pause, won't work04:15:33
@samueldr:matrix.orgsamueldrsame observations: nothing in the log that seems relevant... one error, but hard to tell if relevant because I can't wrap my head around if and where that property(?) in qml is defined, which is outside the project that's for sure04:16:30
@samueldr:matrix.orgsamueldrbtw, AFAIK no relation between either apps other than being in plasma mobile gear; they are implemented diffrently04:32:40
@samueldr:matrix.orgsamueldr * btw, AFAIK no relation between either apps other than being in plasma mobile gear; they are implemented differently04:32:43
@samueldr:matrix.orgsamueldr okay, audiotube was again because qtmultimedia pretty much depends on gstreamer for anything useful it seems 04:43:11
@samueldr:matrix.orgsamueldrat first I thought this was only one odd package that needed it, but it seems it's for everything?04:43:24
@samueldr:matrix.orgsamueldr should packages built with qtmultimedia, but without gstreamer fail? with an escape hatch with dontFailOnMissingGstreamer if it's not required? 04:44:24
@samueldr:matrix.orgsamueldrinterestingly, same issue with playback control? scrubber (progress bar) can't scrub, but play/pause works04:52:05
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧
In reply to @samueldr:matrix.org
should packages built with qtmultimedia, but without gstreamer fail? with an escape hatch with dontFailOnMissingGstreamer if it's not required?
Can't we throw gstreamer into qtmultimedia so that you cannot get one without?
09:14:53
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧
In reply to @samueldr:matrix.org
any tips to figure out why Qt/QML apps are broken at runtime?
strace seeing what it tries to dlopen?
09:15:05
@samueldr:matrix.orgsamueldr
In reply to@sandro:supersandro.de
Can't we throw gstreamer into qtmultimedia so that you cannot get one without?
I don't know how it'll work with the usual wrapgapps stuff
09:28:29

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