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22 Feb 2025
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily
In reply to @sandro:supersandro.de
Again If we would just still compile that software no one would complain
not sure what the point of reiterating this discussion every time vulnerable packages come up is. it was hashed out pretty thoroughly on the PR.
14:00:05
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧because you're argumentation is wrong and it is hurting being honest about vulnerable packages and still allowing people to use software14:01:21
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily no, we just disagree about what Hydra should build. afaict you're the only person who considers that a reason that web browser engines with critical CVEs shouldn't be marked knownVulnerabilities though. 14:03:25
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧because I know people who do not have compile server flying around 20:03:37
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧and for them to use some software that requires hours compiling on their laptop is actually a very big problem20:05:56
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧also retroactively bricking peoples setups on stable just because of that with no option out is especially stupid20:08:15
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧if a config flip would just download the precompiled software again, that would be fine and actionable but then also having to compile the software is just stupid20:08:56
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI really don't feel like relitigating this every couple weeks when there's a security issue.20:46:54
23 Feb 2025
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@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧I know that you value security way over usability of people20:54:28
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧but it is just a fact that you cannot remove all vulnerable software from your life and still live.20:54:41
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧but that has been an issue since I first heard of NixOS and 5 years back we already weighted marking things vulnerable and having them cached 🀷20:56:28
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧 shawn8901: do you want to open a PR for https://github.com/Shawn8901/nixpkgs/commit/735fd4615f6e6844a25ad14638680024a3ff4be8 ? Even if we cannot change the default, I want those options in https://github.com/Shawn8901/nixpkgs/commit/735fd4615f6e6844a25ad14638680024a3ff4be8 20:56:48
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧 * shawn8901: do you want to open a PR for https://github.com/Shawn8901/nixpkgs/commit/735fd4615f6e6844a25ad14638680024a3ff4be8 ? Even if we cannot change the default, I want those options in. 20:56:54
@shawn8901:matrix.orgshawn8901
In reply to @sandro:supersandro.de
shawn8901: do you want to open a PR for https://github.com/Shawn8901/nixpkgs/commit/735fd4615f6e6844a25ad14638680024a3ff4be8 ? Even if we cannot change the default, I want those options in.
Sure I can do tomorrow, I wasn't sure on the other PR when I asked if it was finally wanted or not.
23:18:47
@shawn8901:matrix.orgshawn8901The options sadly can just be tuned by overriding the package. I am using that since some times as I am trying to reduce the perl usage on my systems23:21:29
@shawn8901:matrix.orgshawn8901* The options sadly can just be tuned by overriding the package. I am using that (salute backend) since some times as I am trying to reduce the perl usage on my systems23:22:23
24 Feb 2025
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@shawn8901:matrix.orgshawn8901 Sandro 🐧: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/384804 16:28:05
@k900:0upti.meK900 (Old)Can we make that one option?17:05:52
@k900:0upti.meK900 (Old)I don't think building all the backends is something that makes sense in most cases17:06:02
@k900:0upti.meK900 (Old)Because it's not like you can (reasonably) switch at runtime anyway17:06:16
@ilya-fedin:matrix.orgπ™Όπš›. π™±πš˜πš πš•πšŽπš› πš π™·πšŠπšWhy Discover doesn't have comments/rating feature on NixOS?18:30:48
@k900:0upti.meK900 (Old)I think we don't have appstream metadata? 18:31:11
@ilya-fedin:matrix.orgπ™Όπš›. π™±πš˜πš πš•πšŽπš› πš π™·πšŠπšbut it gets it from flatpak?18:31:28
@k900:0upti.meK900 (Old)Actually does it even work with flatpak18:31:33
@k900:0upti.meK900 (Old)I'm not sure if it does 18:31:39
@ilya-fedin:matrix.orgπ™Όπš›. π™±πš˜πš πš•πšŽπš› πš π™·πšŠπšyes18:31:44
@ilya-fedin:matrix.orgπ™Όπš›. π™±πš˜πš πš•πšŽπš› πš π™·πšŠπši use it 18:31:47

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