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10 Nov 2024
@eliasp:kde.orgeliaspAh, right... That explains it15:20:30
@k900:0upti.meK900Today on things I did not expect to be touching: samba18:14:33
@k900:0upti.meK900https://invent.kde.org/utilities/konsole/-/merge_requests/104218:26:40
@k900:0upti.meK900YESSSSSSSSSSS18:26:42
@k900:0upti.meK900Finally cgroups per tab in Konsole landed properly18:26:48
@k900:0upti.meK900Finally I can oomd18:26:51
@mjm:midna.devmjmoooo18:27:41
@k900:0upti.meK900Also forgot to link my samba touching: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/35503118:27:53
@aloisw:kde.orgaloisw
In reply to @k900:0upti.me
Finally cgroups per tab in Konsole landed properly
Weren't they already introduced some months ago?
19:13:34
@aloisw:kde.orgaloiswI might be confusing things with tmux, but I'm pretty sure Konsole added some systemd integration too.19:14:18
@k900:0upti.meK900It used to only create cgroups if you had a memory limit set in the profile 19:19:53
@k900:0upti.meK900Now it just does it all the time 19:19:58
@eliasp:kde.orgeliasp
In reply to @k900:0upti.me
https://invent.kde.org/utilities/konsole/-/merge_requests/1042
Oh, I was having some thoughts on a quite related topic today...
https://mastodon.social/@eliasp/113458175173585295
will have to check out per-tab cgroups once everything is back up & running again here
19:42:44
@eliasp:kde.orgeliaspbtw: still haven't figure out, what broke my user-sessions... doesn't matter which DE or user I'm using, I end up with a user-session where only dbus.service is running, nothing else... will have to do some low-level debugging now19:47:44
@eliasp:kde.orgeliasp * btw: still haven't figured out, what broke my user-sessions... doesn't matter which DE or user I'm using, I end up with a user-session where only dbus.service is running, nothing else... will have to do some low-level debugging now19:47:55
@eliasp:kde.orgeliaspone thing that's off: there's no user-1000.slice or user@1000.service started for my user when logging in via sddm.... only once I login via VT, both are initialized...20:11:11
@eliasp:kde.orgeliaspthis also explains, why I'm only seeing dbus.service in the user-session, but nothing else20:11:30
@eliasp:kde.orgeliasp

I shouldn't have started digging here... moving /var/lib/sddm to a temporary path aside and restarting display-manager gets sddm stuck with a black screen... it looks like /var/lib/sddm is neither created by a corresponding service unit, nor by sddm itself...
re-creating it manually allows to start sddm regularly once again...
adding it to my notes of stuff that needs more debugging later on - but at least I know now: it has nothing to do with a bad state of sddm read from /var/lib/sddm

I feel like it has trouble with logind, since the Sleep/Reboot/Shutdown buttons are also greyed out and don't work at all...

20:23:45
@eliasp:kde.orgeliasp oh, understood... /var/lib/sddm is created through /etc/tmpfiles.d/sddm.conf - that's IMHO ugly and needs fixing, since this should be StateDir= of display-manager.service instead and wouldn't break on doing what I just did...
...added to my TODO-stack
20:27:08
@eliasp:kde.orgeliasp

looks like I finally found something helpful:

  • https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=494804
  • https://discuss.kde.org/t/solved-sddm-does-not-start-any-session/23670/5
20:42:07
@eliasp:kde.orgeliaspaaaaaand that's it! disconnected my 2nd screen and it worked just fine 🎊20:43:53
@k900:0upti.meK900The entire display-manager.service thing is wrong20:45:06
@k900:0upti.meK900But this is in fact what upstream does: https://github.com/sddm/sddm/blob/develop/services/sddm-tmpfiles.conf.in20:45:59
@eliasp:kde.orgeliaspugh - calls for an upstream fix20:48:25
@k900:0upti.meK900SDDM upstream is ... weird20:49:05
@k900:0upti.meK900There's a good chance the entire thing just goes away in a few releases20:49:17
@k900:0upti.meK900At least from Plasma20:49:24
@eliasp:kde.orgeliaspyou mean KDE will ship their own login-manager? or they'll pull sddm properly under the KDE umbrella?20:51:36
@k900:0upti.meK900One of those two things, yes20:53:17
@eliasp:kde.orgeliaspoh, any references for those rumors? would love to read more about this...20:54:21

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