| 19 May 2025 |
 Grimmauld (migrated to @grimmauld:m.grimmauld.de) | *
- https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/407932 | python313Packages.shiboken2: mark broken
- https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/408671 | Some KDE applications are duplicated and use unmaintained/partially broken libsForQt5
- plans to update default python to 3.13 in 25.11 (now the coming unstable)
- some packages having qt5 and qt6 support
When do we start dropping qt5 (or at least set qt6 default) on packages like this that have overrides to select qt version?
| 15:41:24 |
 K900 ⚡️ | Generally we want to keep whatever default upstreams have | 15:43:33 |
| K900 ⚡️ | e.g. Krita builds on Qt6 but we ship Qt5 because Qt6 has known issues | 15:43:50 |
| K900 ⚡️ | shiboken2 is whatever, we can probably drop pyqt5 after we drop Plasma | 15:44:09 |
| K900 ⚡️ | I started chopping off Plasma but got lost in the migraine | 15:45:07 |
| K900 ⚡️ | If anyone wants to start, be my guest | 15:45:18 |
 emily | do we have an update on the fate of Qt 5 WebEngine? | 15:45:28 |
| emily | I'm worried about that. | 15:45:33 |
| K900 ⚡️ | Basically all of Plasma 5 can go, all of Gear as well except things marked broken in kdePackages | 15:45:49 |
| K900 ⚡️ | And then we prune the tree as far down as it'll go | 15:45:58 |
| Grimmauld (migrated to @grimmauld:m.grimmauld.de) | dropping pyqt5 affects some packages i genuinely care about. Notably, freecad (can be bumped to just use qt6 instead) and opensnitch-ui (i am listed maintainer and that didn't port yet...) | 15:45:59 |
| K900 ⚡️ | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
do we have an update on the fate of Qt 5 WebEngine? It's being maintained for the time being | 15:46:10 |
| K900 ⚡️ | In reply to @grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.de
dropping pyqt5 affects some packages i genuinely care about. Notably, freecad (can be bumped to just use qt6 instead) and opensnitch-ui (i am listed maintainer and that didn't port yet...) *pyside5 | 15:46:24 |
| emily | by who? | 15:46:36 |
| K900 ⚡️ | pyqt5 can exist, I don't think anything but plasma uses pyside5 | 15:46:42 |
| emily | the Qt EOL is soon, right? | 15:46:42 |
| K900 ⚡️ | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
by who? Qt | 15:46:45 |
| emily | https://www.qt.io/blog/extended-security-maintenance-for-qt-5.15-begins-may-2025 ok cool | 15:47:10 |
| emily | wait no | 15:47:19 |
| emily | that's commercial-only? | 15:47:21 |
| emily | it looks to me like we have 7 days. | 15:47:32 |
| emily | (and that's not an old post, it's from a couple months ago) | 15:47:57 |
| K900 ⚡️ | It seems they will keep publishing patches for qtwebengine at least | 15:48:09 |
| emily | do you have a source for that? 😅 | 15:48:23 |
| K900 ⚡️ | Somewhere on the mailing lists | 15:49:04 |
| Grimmauld (migrated to @grimmauld:m.grimmauld.de) | we should still drop it as soon as we can tbh | 15:50:18 |
| Grimmauld (migrated to @grimmauld:m.grimmauld.de) | or at least slap it with known vulns | 15:50:27 |
| emily | why? | 15:52:08 |
| emily | if Qt is patching it then it's as good as it is now | 15:52:13 |
| emily | the question is just whether they are | 15:52:16 |
