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@emilazy:matrix.orgemily withWebEngine should be true by default for the backport 18:59:14
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)yes, but not for unstable18:59:31
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily we need to do true by default → turn to false in the packages that don't need it → false by default in a follow-up PR 18:59:35
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywell ok18:59:40
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyit is generally easier to do the backportable things on unstable and then do the non-backportable things on top but sure18:59:50
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)i'd have just edited the commits in a manual backport and put the default true in there19:00:13
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyFWIW Subsurface supports Qt 6 and apparently doesn't even use WebEngine on 5, but we don't have to fix that now19:00:12
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)not on the version we have19:00:30
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywell, it still doesn't use WebEngine on 5 regardless of vresion :P19:00:41
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily* well, it still doesn't use WebEngine on 5 regardless of version :P19:00:43
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily what I mean is that we need to go through the pyside2 users 19:00:55
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)yes19:00:55
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)oh. Oh no.19:01:15
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythere's only like 10 of them19:01:20
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)but its python19:01:29
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)and python dependency mangement is fucked19:01:36
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily though more via qtpy 19:01:44
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)nono those are counted in the 1019:03:09
@k900:0upti.meK900We can also wait for Plasma 5 to get dropped19:03:53
@k900:0upti.meK900And by get dropped I mean we drop it first19:04:07
@k900:0upti.meK900And by we I mean me19:04:17
@k900:0upti.meK900And by me I mean tired19:04:25
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)i mean, emily said that wasn't necessary, just makes a difference in what error people are getting19:05:50
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)the painful thing is: How the hell am i supposed to check whether pyside users are using webengine?19:07:09
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)if it were a proper language, i could just build and get a nice linker error or something. But no, py is all dynamic19:07:34
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywell there's like 10 of them19:07:43
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyyou go to github and type webengine in the search19:07:49
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)fair enough - if i don't find any that use qtwebengine, would we backport it as default false?19:08:59
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)ah, that way we can backport the thing... We can keep false-by-default on supercollider?19:13:24
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythat would be a breaking change to SuperCollider, so probably we shouldn't19:24:58

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