| 12 Sep 2025 |
|  verlannow joined the room. | 05:54:14 |
| verlannow | 
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| verlannow | Hello dear Nix KDE users!
I am coming to you with a short question. Recently I have noticed that power management on my nixos KDE system stopped working.
| 05:57:25 |
 K900 | What does systemctl --user status plasma-powerdevil? | 05:58:08 |
| K900 | What does systemctl --user status plasma-powerdevil output? | 05:58:11 |
| verlannow | * Hello dear Nix KDE users!
I am coming to you with a short question. Recently I have noticed that power management on my nixos KDE system stopped working. | 05:58:16 |
| verlannow | that is inactive. I did only check for upower which was working | 05:58:49 |
| K900 | Please post the full output | 05:59:06 |
| verlannow | 
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| K900 | Yeah that sounds like it crashed | 06:00:46 |
| K900 | Try systemctl --user start plasma-powerdevil | 06:00:52 |
| verlannow | that works. Thanks a lot.
should this service not automatically try to restart?
I will do a restart and see if it automatically starts and works | 06:02:35 |
| verlannow | * that works. Thanks a lot.
should this service not automatically try to restart?
I will do a restart and see if it automatically starts and works
(this does automatically start as expected) | 06:04:59 |
|  @aidalgol:tchncs.de set a profile picture. | 09:21:37 |
 Sandro 🐧 | FYI https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/442349 | 11:58:58 |
 emily | wonder if we should just enable fwupd by default in general (or at least for graphical systems) | 12:06:57 |
| emily | pretty not good to not have a way to get firmware updated | 12:07:12 |
| emily | I guess we at least have microcode shipped separately but not UEFI | 12:07:29 |
| Sandro 🐧 | I tried enabling fwupd on a headless system and it has many GUI dependencies and is pretty big because of that | 12:08:49 |
| Sandro 🐧 | also in my experience only dbx gets updates on almost all of my devices. I had like 3 other updates in 5 years. So support is not that well. | 12:09:53 |
| Sandro 🐧 | but I would be fine to enable it by default in the plasma 6 module | 12:12:21 |
 Grimmauld (any/all) | it pulls pango/harfbuzz, but that is not what makes the closure large.
The problem is the fact it has a runtime dep on GCC via valgrind (i think) | 12:29:31 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | i mean i guess modemmanager is somewhat large, but at least on systems with NM that already exists | 12:31:32 |
 aloisw | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
pretty not good to not have a way to get firmware updated You still have to trigger the update manually. It doesn't seem like installation of fwupd is the weakest link here. | 15:23:03 |
 Lun | idk if this matters but every time it runs it makes amd dgpus do a fan spin up spindown cycle | 15:24:05 |
| Lun | * idk if this matters but every time it runs it makes amd dgpus that were otherwise suspended do a fan spin up spindown cycle | 15:24:26 |
| aloisw | "it" being the update checking command? I guess it needs to power on the card to read its firmware version. | 15:26:42 |
| Lun | The scheduled check for updates one (fwupd-refresh?) iirc. It's not really avoidable but it might be an annoyance if it was defaulted on for some laptop users | 15:28:53 |
| Lun | well it is avoidable but it's not fwupd's fault or avoidable on its side, amdgpu needs to be less silly about this and there's been a fix a few times on the list and it's never been applied so this'll presumably stay broken forever | 15:29:49 |
| Sandro 🐧 | I think it would require to create a libnm to make it smaller | 15:43:39 |
