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27 Sep 2024
K900	Feel free	19:47:23
K900	I honestly don't have a strong preference one way or the other	19:47:32
28 Sep 2024
K900	@𝙼𝚛. 𝙱𝚘𝚠𝚕𝚎𝚛 𝚠𝙷𝚊𝚝 https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/345057	09:18:20
Alper Çelik	Download image.png	18:43:41
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Alper Çelik	Hello, in kde power and battery applet it says power profile not available but in system settings everything works well. could you guys help ? My config : https://github.com/Alper-Celik/MyConfig	18:46:53
K900	That setting is just a noop	18:48:52
K900	If ppd doesn't support your hardware	18:48:58
K900	You can check `powerprofilesctl` to see if it actually does	18:49:08
Alper Çelik	`looks like ti supports, output of` powerprofilesctl`: `* performance: CpuDriver: amd_pstate PlatformDriver: platform_profile Degraded: no balanced: CpuDriver: amd_pstate PlatformDriver: platform_profile power-saver: CpuDriver: amd_pstate PlatformDriver: platform_profile`	18:55:07
Alper Çelik	* looks like it supports, output of `powerprofilesctl\`: `* performance: CpuDriver: amd_pstate PlatformDriver: platform_profile Degraded: no balanced: CpuDriver: amd_pstate PlatformDriver: platform_profile power-saver: CpuDriver: amd_pstate PlatformDriver: platform_profile`	18:55:26
Alper Çelik	* looks like it supports, output of `powerprofilesctl`: `* performance: CpuDriver: amd_pstate PlatformDriver: platform_profile Degraded: no balanced: CpuDriver: amd_pstate PlatformDriver: platform_profile power-saver: CpuDriver: amd_pstate PlatformDriver: platform_profile`	18:55:33
K900	Then you're probably looking at a Plasma 6.1 bug that is fixed in 6.2	19:15:42
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29 Sep 2024
K900	@𝙼𝚛. 𝙱𝚘𝚠𝚕𝚎𝚛 𝚠𝙷𝚊𝚝 so do you think we can get upstream GTK fixed to not do this	09:17:28
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𝙼𝚛. 𝙱𝚘𝚠𝚕𝚎𝚛 𝚠𝙷𝚊𝚝	In reply to @k900:0upti.me @𝙼𝚛. 𝙱𝚘𝚠𝚕𝚎𝚛 𝚠𝙷𝚊𝚝 so do you think we can get upstream GTK fixed to not do this Do you mean make it look at XDG_DATA_DIRS or make it to look into index.theme? As per https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/5388 discusison it seems they have no interest in either but getting the former should be easy (basically call get_cursor_theme recursively with `default` as theme name, with `strcmp(name, "default")` conidtion). The latter requires implementing theme merging in gtk as it basically lacks it, they extracted only very minimalistic part from wayland-cursor they need.	14:10:25
𝙼𝚛. 𝙱𝚘𝚠𝚕𝚎𝚛 𝚠𝙷𝚊𝚝	In reply to @k900:0upti.me @𝙼𝚛. 𝙱𝚘𝚠𝚕𝚎𝚛 𝚠𝙷𝚊𝚝 so do you think we can get upstream GTK fixed to not do this * Do you mean make it look at XDG_DATA_DIRS or make it to look into index.theme? As per https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/5388 discusison it seems they have no interest in either but getting the former should be easy (basically call get_cursor_theme recursively with `default` as theme name, with `strcmp(name, "default")` conidtion). The latter requires implementing theme merging in gtk as it basically lacks it, they extracted only very minimalistic part from wayland-cursor they need.	14:10:34
𝙼𝚛. 𝙱𝚘𝚠𝚕𝚎𝚛 𝚠𝙷𝚊𝚝	* Do you mean make it look at XDG_DATA_DIRS or make it to look into index.theme? As per https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/5388 discusison it seems they have no interest in either but getting the former should be easy (basically call get_cursor_theme recursively with `default` as theme name, with `strcmp(name, "default")` conidtion). The latter requires implementing cursor theme merging in gtk as it basically lacks it, they extracted only very minimalistic part from wayland-cursor they need.	14:10:46
𝙼𝚛. 𝙱𝚘𝚠𝚕𝚎𝚛 𝚠𝙷𝚊𝚝	* Do you mean make it look at XDG_DATA_DIRS or make it to look into index.theme? As per https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/5388 discusison it seems they have no interest in either but getting the former should be easy (basically call get_cursor_theme recursively with `default` as theme name, with `strcmp(name, "default")` conidtion). The latter requires implementing cursor theme merging in gtk as it basically lacks it, they extracted only very minimalistic part they need from wayland-cursor.	14:11:07
𝙼𝚛. 𝙱𝚘𝚠𝚕𝚎𝚛 𝚠𝙷𝚊𝚝	* Do you mean make it look at XDG_DATA_DIRS or make it to look into index.theme? As per https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/5388 discusison it seems they have no interest in either but getting the former should be easy (basically call get_cursor_theme recursively with `default` as theme name before the last `wl_cursor_theme_create` fallback, with `strcmp(name, "default")` conidtion). The latter requires implementing cursor theme merging in gtk as it basically lacks it, they extracted only very minimalistic part they need from wayland-cursor.	14:12:10
𝙼𝚛. 𝙱𝚘𝚠𝚕𝚎𝚛 𝚠𝙷𝚊𝚝	* Do you mean make it look at XDG_DATA_DIRS or make it to look into index.theme? As per https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/5388 discusison it seems they have no interest in either but getting the former should be easy (basically call get_cursor_theme recursively with `default` as theme name before the last `wl_cursor_theme_create` fallback, with `strcmp(name, "default")` condtion). The latter requires implementing cursor theme merging in gtk as it basically lacks it, they extracted only very minimalistic part they need from wayland-cursor.	14:12:29
K900	In reply to @ilya-fedin:matrix.org Do you mean make it look at XDG_DATA_DIRS or make it to look into index.theme? As per https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/5388 discusison it seems they have no interest in either but getting the former should be easy (basically call get_cursor_theme recursively with `default` as theme name before the last `wl_cursor_theme_create` fallback, with `strcmp(name, "default")` condtion). The latter requires implementing cursor theme merging in gtk as it basically lacks it, they extracted only very minimalistic part they need from wayland-cursor. Amazing	14:17:51
K900	Maybe we can just get some of the GNOME people to deal with this	14:19:09
K900	Because I can't	14:19:17
𝙼𝚛. 𝙱𝚘𝚠𝚕𝚎𝚛 𝚠𝙷𝚊𝚝	gtk4 also uses custom built-in fallback cursor than gtk3. As gtk3 uses wayland-cursor, it provides the last fallback which it apparently took from xcursor, given that it has lots of functions with the same name as in libxcursor and those cursors are the same as X11 applications have in this situation (that tiny cursor I uploaded in screenshot). gtk4, it seems, didn't copy that code from wayland-cursor, it has its own builtin fallback pixmap. It seems to be the default (left_ptr) cursor from Adwaita. It can properly scale it (or maybe almost, it's of the right size but looks blurry) which is avantage but wayland-cursor seem to have not only the default cursor but also the hand cursor at least which is disadvantage. Thus I had a trouble resizing gtk4 windows while testing it with GDK_DEBUG=portals.	14:32:35
𝙼𝚛. 𝙱𝚘𝚠𝚕𝚎𝚛 𝚠𝙷𝚊𝚝	meh, I have a very big trouble connecting to matrix and Element doesn't seem to even have proxy setitngs 🙈	14:33:04
𝙼𝚛. 𝙱𝚘𝚠𝚕𝚎𝚛 𝚠𝙷𝚊𝚝	In reply to @k900:0upti.me Because I can't That could be really easily be solved by symlinking... I honestly don't really undertstand what's the problem with runCommand given that e.g. fonts module uses it: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/nixos/modules/config/fonts/fontdir.nix	14:34:23
𝙼𝚛. 𝙱𝚘𝚠𝚕𝚎𝚛 𝚠𝙷𝚊𝚝	In reply to @k900:0upti.me Because I can't * That could be really easily solved by symlinking... I honestly don't really undertstand what's the problem with runCommand given that e.g. fonts module uses it: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/nixos/modules/config/fonts/fontdir.nix	14:36:08
𝙼𝚛. 𝙱𝚘𝚠𝚕𝚎𝚛 𝚠𝙷𝚊𝚝	* That could be really easily solved by symlinking... I honestly don't really understand what's the problem with runCommand given that e.g. fonts module uses it: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/nixos/modules/config/fonts/fontdir.nix	14:36:21

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