| 22 Nov 2024 |
 eliasp | ...and it would be also interesting to know, whether any of the kcrash tooling has a way to "simulate" crash to test all this? | 09:07:49 |
 K900 | We don't have enough debug info to submit those currently | 09:09:29 |
| K900 | The next staging cycle should get us there | 09:09:37 |
| eliasp | ah, because my backtraces looked quite complete, so I assumed they'd be good enough to be sent…
nonetheless, then the UI is misleading and doesn't tell me "Your crash data are bad - I'm not gonna send anything to KDE" :) | 09:10:50 |
| eliasp | 
Download Screenshot_20241122_101122.png | 09:12:09 |
| eliasp | and I just found a few quite insightful blog posts by Harald:
- https://planet.kde.org/harald-sitter-2024-08-20-plasma-crash-course-kcrash/
- https://planet.kde.org/harald-sitter-2024-08-27-plasma-crash-course-coredumpd/
- https://planet.kde.org/harald-sitter-2024-09-04-plasma-crash-course-drkonqi/
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| 24 Nov 2024 |
|  @ixlun:matrix.org changed their display name from Matthew Leach to Matthew L. | 00:43:18 |
| K900 | @emily can you take a look at what we're actually breaking with qtwebengine5 | 08:14:53 |
 emily | like if we tried to remove it now? | 08:15:09 |
| emily | or if we don't get it fixed on Darwin for 24.11? | 08:15:21 |
| emily | the hacky fix for Darwin is pretty simple so we can probably just go ahead with that for now | 08:15:32 |
| emily | but it does seem like it's better to get rid of it sooner rather than later for 25.05 | 08:15:43 |
| K900 | Like if we remove and/or knownVulnerabilities it | 08:16:03 |
| emily | I can try and just delete it and see what nixpkgs-review thinks | 08:16:09 |
| K900 | It will drag half of Plasma 5 to heck, that's for sure | 08:16:12 |
| emily | tomorrow probably | 08:16:14 |
| emily | maybe you should drop Plasma 5 firts :P | 08:16:22 |
| K900 | But the good thing about that is we also want to get rid of Plasma 5 | 08:16:24 |
| emily | * maybe you should drop Plasma 5 first :P | 08:16:25 |
| K900 | Yes | 08:16:26 |
| emily | I wish you could easily grep for Qt/KDE package names and reliably narrow it down to specific versions | 08:16:46 |
| K900 | I wish we didn't have two of them to begin with | 08:17:23 |
| emily | scrolling through rg -g '!pkgs/kde' qtwebengine and guessing at what's using 5/6, it really doesn't look too bad | 08:19:19 |
| emily | okay lol Calamares doesn't seem good | 08:20:05 |
| emily | and RStudio seems painful | 08:20:13 |
| emily | looks like Calamares has Qt 6 support of some kind? | 08:20:34 |
| K900 | I'm not sure how mature that is but I can ask adg | 08:21:11 |
| emily | "The Electron-based IDE will replace the QtWebEngine version entirely in a future release" (RStudio, 2022) | 08:21:34 |
| emily | we can probably switch to that, I guess | 08:21:39 |
