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5 Oct 2024
@k900:0upti.meK900 ⚡️Mostly the former08:10:13
@k900:0upti.meK900 ⚡️Hydra can take care of the latter08:10:17
@k900:0upti.meK900 ⚡️But with e.g. 6.7.3 people are reporting weird runtime crashes08:10:26
@k900:0upti.meK900 ⚡️That I personally haven't hit but there's a lot of talk in the Plasma rooms08:10:41
@outfoxxed:outfoxxed.meoutfoxxedtheres lots of nasty ones in quick08:10:42
@outfoxxed:outfoxxed.meoutfoxxedhit them personally a fair bit08:10:51
@k900:0upti.meK900 ⚡️And that's not something Hydra can catch08:10:56
@outfoxxed:outfoxxed.meoutfoxxedpersonally would probably just hold off on 6.8 unless plasma can actually be fully tested in that time08:11:49
@k900:0upti.meK900 ⚡️If we get 6.8 into the next cycle and it goes closer to a normal timeline (i.e. 1-1.5 weeks and not 3), we'll have over a month to release08:13:12
@k900:0upti.meK900 ⚡️And we'll definitely have at least one more cycle to revert to 6.7 if it's really ba08:13:23
@k900:0upti.meK900 ⚡️* And we'll definitely have at least one more cycle to revert to 6.7 if it's really bad08:13:24
@outfoxxed:outfoxxed.meoutfoxxedprobably good enough then08:13:36
@k900:0upti.meK900 ⚡️But if it goes for 3 weeks, we'll have maybe two weeks to last possible revert point08:14:32
@k900:0upti.meK900 ⚡️And that's going to suck08:14:39
@k900:0upti.meK900 ⚡️I guess one thing we have going for us is that there's other distros08:14:59
@k900:0upti.meK900 ⚡️That don't need two weeks to ship a Qt update08:15:12
@outfoxxed:outfoxxed.meoutfoxxed please beta test, arch 🙏 08:15:17
@k900:0upti.meK900 ⚡️So we may have a rough baseline for 6.8 from that08:15:29
@outfoxxed:outfoxxed.meoutfoxxedis that two weeks worth of qt rebuilds or just having to fit that in a staging cycle08:15:58
@k900:0upti.meK900 ⚡️Or maybe I'm overthinking all of this and Randy just killed it on the Darwin stdenv rewrite and it'll go smoothly and we will not have problems08:16:14
@k900:0upti.meK900 ⚡️
In reply to@outfoxxed:outfoxxed.me
is that two weeks worth of qt rebuilds or just having to fit that in a staging cycle
The overall staging cycle
08:16:20
@k900:0upti.meK900 ⚡️Qt itself is something like 3k rebuilds08:16:37
@k900:0upti.meK900 ⚡️Which is not insignificant, but not a huge amount by staging terms08:16:48
@outfoxxed:outfoxxed.meoutfoxxed
In reply to @k900:0upti.me
Or maybe I'm overthinking all of this and Randy just killed it on the Darwin stdenv rewrite and it'll go smoothly and we will not have problems
good luck lol
08:17:24
@outfoxxed:outfoxxed.meoutfoxxedI'll just wait till the 6.8 merge into unstable to rewrite the patch, and leave it for merging later08:20:55
7 Oct 2024
@ilya-fedin:matrix.org𝙼𝚛. 𝙱𝚘𝚠𝚕𝚎𝚛 𝚠𝙷𝚊𝚝
In reply to @k900:0upti.me
And we'll definitely have at least one more cycle to revert to 6.7 if it's really bad
Honestly all the 6.7 was really bad. Regressions every patch release.
02:22:02
@ilya-fedin:matrix.org𝙼𝚛. 𝙱𝚘𝚠𝚕𝚎𝚛 𝚠𝙷𝚊𝚝
In reply to @k900:0upti.me
And ideally I'd like to get 6.8 and the patch in two separate cycles so we don't have to play "was it this change or that change" when something explodes
i bet you will have a hard time given that 6.8 has removed a porting pill define
02:22:50
@ilya-fedin:matrix.org𝙼𝚛. 𝙱𝚘𝚠𝚕𝚎𝚛 𝚠𝙷𝚊𝚝some software likely not to build02:22:59
@ilya-fedin:matrix.org𝙼𝚛. 𝙱𝚘𝚠𝚕𝚎𝚛 𝚠𝙷𝚊𝚝
In reply to @k900:0upti.me
And ideally I'd like to get 6.8 and the patch in two separate cycles so we don't have to play "was it this change or that change" when something explodes
* i bet you will have a hard time if until 24.11 given that 6.8 has removed a porting pill define
02:25:06
@ilya-fedin:matrix.org𝙼𝚛. 𝙱𝚘𝚠𝚕𝚎𝚛 𝚠𝙷𝚊𝚝 * some software likely not to build and needing major patches02:25:25

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