 | NixOS KDE | 225 Members |
| 63 Servers |
| NixOS KDE | 225 Members |
| 63 Servers |
| Sender | Message | Time |
|---|---|---|
| 24 May 2026 | ||
 mj | Yes there was already an article on some linux news site that KDE will drop it by 6.8, this means ends at 6.7 | 08:23:02 |
| mj | Announcement has gone out but if pressure mounts here’s another stick | 08:23:30 |
 aloisw | I mean the motivation. It seems to me that it hasn't, and I would have preferred if they had announced the much earlier end right away. | 08:31:38 |
| aloisw | (or even "we don't know how long we can still support it" tbh) | 08:33:15 |
 Hadi 🤒 | In reply to @aloisw:kde.orgThere never was a plan. Its was entirely vibe based on how far https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/work_items/202 was. | 08:43:19 |
| Hadi 🤒 | Now with it almost done, the annoucement has been made. | 08:43:59 |
| Hadi 🤒 | Plasma 7 was just an estimate that later turned out to be inaccurate. | 08:44:29 |
| aloisw | In reply to @silverhadch07:matrix.org… and the statement "kwin_x11 is expected to be maintained until Plasma 7" in the announcement about splitting it off (https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/plasma-devel/2025-March/123654.html). | 09:22:17 |
| Hadi 🤒 | expected doesnt mean will. | 09:32:57 |
| Hadi 🤒 | This is the only thing binding with the annoucment. https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/work_items/202 | 09:34:52 |
 Sandro 🐧 | Needed to build a lot of other stuff yesterday, too, when updating | 09:42:33 |
| Hadi 🤒 | I had to build like 400 things. | 09:54:35 |
| Hadi 🤒 | And its still building. | 09:54:41 |
| Sandro 🐧 | Over 1.4k but at least half of that is my fault | 10:12:13 |
| aloisw | I understand, I didn't say what they did was totally evil but only that it would have been better to be more open about the situation earlier. | 10:14:33 |
| Hadi 🤒 | It was always open. The Issue is publically avaible for eyes to look at. | 10:16:43 |
 K900 | I think that's just the reality of open source tbh | 10:17:52 |
| K900 | The only things getting work done are 1) things that are fun and 2) things people pay for | 10:18:02 |
| K900 | X11 was never fun | 10:18:33 |
| K900 | And now no one wants to pay for the work either | 10:18:39 |
| aloisw | The mail I linked could still have been more open that the expectation about it being maintained until Plasma 7 is not actually an expectation then. After all the issue is a year older than it. | 10:19:50 |
| aloisw | Anyway, looks like the AlmaLinux 9 they suggested in the announcement regarding 6.8 has both KDE Plasma and the required NVIDIA driver and the support timeframe I was hoping for, so it may actually be a reasonable solution. Still would have preferred to do it right away though :( | 10:22:36 |
| Hadi 🤒 | In reply to @aloisw:kde.orgA Fact: Something that has already happened and can be proven. Reality: The actual state of things as they exist right now. An Expectation: A thought about a reality that does not yet exist. | 10:24:56 |
| Hadi 🤒 | The TODO List got worked on faster than expected. Therefore the expectation proved to be to pessimistic. | 10:26:35 |
| aloisw | Ah, so finally you actually provided a reason that did change after all. I assume there was some external funding for a huge effort to accelerate the timeline by roughly 5x? | 10:30:07 |
| K900 | Valve at least is paying a bunch of folks | 10:33:12 |
| K900 | There's also the EUgov funding now | 10:33:20 |
| K900 | Which you should probably ask Raito about | 10:33:35 |
| K900 | If you want details | 10:33:48 |
| Hadi 🤒 | In reply to @aloisw:kde.orgYes we were faster than we anticipated. So the need of the X11 side fell out. | 10:41:41 |