| 10 May 2023 |
 hexa | * matrix-synapse.tools.synadm | 21:16:19 |
| hexa |
quarantine Quarantine media in rooms, by users or by media ID.
| 21:16:33 |
| hexa | apparently it also works by username | 21:16:40 |
 Sumner Evans | that only quarantines, it doesn't actually delete from the server | 21:16:50 |
| hexa | right, but it also stops your server from serving it | 21:17:05 |
 Zhaofeng Li | Oh right, do homeservers serve medias from other homeservers publicly as well? | 21:23:38 |
| Sumner Evans | clients only ever request media from their homeserver | 21:24:09 |
 K900 | Yeah it's all proxied through your HS | 21:25:12 |
| K900 | So quarantining basically makes it never fetch the quarantined file | 21:25:23 |
| Zhaofeng Li | Oh wow, this thing is much better than IPFS: https://matrix.naive.network/_matrix/media/r0/download/entropia.de/nKQHSPtoauLZMUBeNVqUdUMH | 21:27:08 |
| Zhaofeng Li | Crazy that it hasn't been abused yet | 21:27:23 |
| Zhaofeng Li | Also works for homeservers with no users in the room: https://matrix.nevarro.space/_matrix/media/r0/download/entropia.de/nKQHSPtoauLZMUBeNVqUdUMH | 21:29:50 |
| Zhaofeng Li | WIth smaller servers that never clean up their caches (I'm guilty of that), this is effectively a free image CDN with infinite TTL | 21:31:12 |
| Zhaofeng Li | * WIth smaller servers that never clean up their caches (I'm guilty of that), this is effectively a free CDN with infinite TTL | 21:31:19 |
| Zhaofeng Li | I'm honestly a bit disappointed that it's not authenticated in any form (either a user or a "related" homeserver) | 21:33:10 |
| K900 | Synapse cleans caches by default IIRC? | 21:33:17 |
| Zhaofeng Li | In reply to @k900:0upti.me
Synapse cleans caches by default IIRC? Huh, then there may be something wrong with my setup then. I'm pretty sure I never touched the caching configs and yet the directory is 11GB | 21:35:24 |
| Zhaofeng Li | But still, it's a big global CDN that's entirely free, run by benevolent people that may not have an idea how cruel the outside world is | 21:36:29 |
 [0x4A6F] | Isn't #moderation:nixos.org the intended room for these conversations? | 21:37:36 |
| Sumner Evans | In reply to @zhaofeng:zhaofeng.li
I'm honestly a bit disappointed that it's not authenticated in any form (either a user or a "related" homeserver) there's an MSC for that: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals/pull/3916 | 21:37:36 |
 Alyssa Ross | I'd rather the moderation room was left for things that require actual attention from a moderator | 21:38:50 |
| Sumner Evans | #matrix-discussion:nixos.org is probably a better room for this | 21:39:16 |
| Alyssa Ross | (this situation in general requires moderator attention, of course, but the ins and outs of how matrix servers work does not) | 21:39:59 |
| Alyssa Ross | I think it's fine to continue this conversation in here for now. That ship has sailed. :) | 21:42:18 |
| Zhaofeng Li | But anyways, this is seriously a neat trick that I'll use gently in an altruistic way. Imagine Firefox Send but decentralized and wget-able | 21:43:25 |
| Alyssa Ross | having some place for people to be able to talk about any response they might need to make is useful, and this seems to have ended up being that place | 21:43:41 |
| [0x4A6F] | In reply to @qyliss:fairydust.space
I'd rather the moderation room was left for things that require actual attention from a moderator This room is actual the same for tracking rooms to include into the NixOS space (AFAIK). Unfortunately there is a SPOF here and the backlog is increasing. I'm not sure how to better the situation. I would offer my help, but that needs elevated privileges in the channels for inclusion. Maybe the moderation team can evaluate, if they could also step in. But I would like to defer this discussion, till the batteries are full again after this day. Thanks goes out to the moderation team. <3 | 21:52:17 |
| Alyssa Ross | I am on the moderation team | 21:52:34 |
| * Zhaofeng Li totally didn't expect to go through the five stages of grief today | 21:53:07 |
| Zhaofeng Li |
- Denial: This can't be true, can it?
- Anger: Why do people even use Matrix? Who would design such a thing?
- Bargaining: There has to be some way to lock down my homeserver, right? (Nope, others can't see your images/files)
- Depression: Wow, people will surely abuse this. You really, really don't want to know what the "grey industry" guys in China do to serve images.
- Acceptance: Let's make use of this new-found knowledge as a nice citizen.
| 21:53:32 |
