| 7 Jun 2025 |
| @deeok:matrix.org changed their display name from deeok to matrixrooms.info mod bot (does NOT read/send messages and/or invites; used for checking reported rooms). | 22:05:58 |
Sandro | I am still thinking that this has something to do with what we do with the rooms | 22:46:27 |
Sandro | I am in like 30 other rooms unrelated to NixOS and this only ever happened to the nixos rooms :P | 22:46:48 |
Sandro | maybe unlucky | 22:46:51 |
emily | it's rather something that was done to the rooms a few years ago involving database editing | 22:48:52 |
emily | unless we've had a room split brain more than once? | 22:49:17 |
emily | I think it has just been "every existing room is cursed to gradually die and need replacing", including e.g. the space room we had to do some months ago | 22:49:34 |
emily | and once they're recreated it's fine (but the very nature of a split brain means that people might not see the right tombstone/alias) | 22:49:58 |
uep | ok, that alias now resolves as intended for me. I may simply have not realised there were two when I moved it a month or so ago, or maybe the old room kept it / resurrected it because of sync issues | 22:51:19 |
Charles | (tombstones yes but the source of truth for aliases is not room state, it's stored separately) | 22:51:44 |
Charles | * (tombstones yes but the source of truth for aliases is not room state, it's stored and looked up separately) | 22:51:59 |
uep | yeah, i had to re-issue the tombstone for that one back then too) | 22:52:22 |
uep | * yeah, i had to re-issue the tombstone for that one back then too | 22:52:28 |
emily | I feel like we've had the space be weird with aliases | 22:53:09 |
emily | for whatever reason | 22:53:14 |
emily | as in #space:nixos.org being the old one for some pople | 22:53:22 |
Charles | it's entirely possible there is jank around aliases but it would be different mechanisms of jank | 22:53:52 |
uep | yes. well. | 22:54:29 |
Sandro | can I somehow force this on my own server? | 22:55:17 |
Charles |
- https://spec.matrix.org/v1.14/client-server-api/#get_matrixclientv3directoryroomroomalias
- https://spec.matrix.org/v1.14/server-server-api/#get_matrixfederationv1querydirectory
maybe servers cache these responses which then causes problems?
| 22:59:29 |
Charles | would have to look at the source code of your particular HS | 23:00:04 |
uep | does the #offtopic:nixos.org link not go to the right place for you now? (maybe after clearing client cache) | 23:00:39 |
Sandro | Interesting 🤔
On both my devices the nixos.org link goes to the right room, just on my desktop the lossy network does not but on mobile it also goes to the correct room | 23:13:11 |
Sandro | So client state seems to play role | 23:13:20 |
Sandro | In reply to @charles:computer.surgery would have to look at the source code of your particular HS Synapse | 23:13:42 |
Sandro | In reply to @sandro:supersandro.de Interesting 🤔
On both my devices the nixos.org link goes to the right room, just on my desktop the lossy network does not but on mobile it also goes to the correct room Or maybe that I am using element x on mobile. | 23:14:10 |
Sandro | On desktop the room picker displays both rooms identically, on mobile the lossy network one has no display name | 23:15:02 |
| @deeok:matrix.org left the room. | 23:55:03 |
| 8 Jun 2025 |
| NixOS Moderation Botchanged room power levels. | 07:36:34 |
[0x4A6F] | Actionable suggestions for the Matrix space. Please hold discussion in #matrix-discussion:nixos.org , then bring the suggestion and context here. | https://pad.lassul.us/Nix-Matrix-Suggestions# | 07:37:00 |