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	Actionable suggestions for the Matrix space. Please hold discussion in #matrix-discussion:nixos.org, then bring the suggestion and context here. \| https://pad.lassul.us/Nix-Matrix-Suggestions#	133 Servers

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10 May 2023
Zhaofeng Li	Crazy that it hasn't been abused yet	21:27:23
Zhaofeng Li	Also works for homeservers with no users in the room: https://matrix.nevarro.space/_matrix/media/r0/download/entropia.de/nKQHSPtoauLZMUBeNVqUdUMH	21:29:50
Zhaofeng Li	WIth smaller servers that never clean up their caches (I'm guilty of that), this is effectively a free image CDN with infinite TTL	21:31:12
Zhaofeng Li	* WIth smaller servers that never clean up their caches (I'm guilty of that), this is effectively a free CDN with infinite TTL	21:31:19
Zhaofeng Li	I'm honestly a bit disappointed that it's not authenticated in any form (either a user or a "related" homeserver)	21:33:10
K900	Synapse cleans caches by default IIRC?	21:33:17
Zhaofeng Li	In reply to @k900:0upti.me Synapse cleans caches by default IIRC? Huh, then there may be something wrong with my setup then. I'm pretty sure I never touched the caching configs and yet the directory is 11GB	21:35:24
Zhaofeng Li	But still, it's a big global CDN that's entirely free, run by benevolent people that may not have an idea how cruel the outside world is	21:36:29
[0x4A6F]	Isn't #moderation:nixos.org the intended room for these conversations?	21:37:36
Sumner Evans	In reply to @zhaofeng:zhaofeng.li I'm honestly a bit disappointed that it's not authenticated in any form (either a user or a "related" homeserver) there's an MSC for that: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals/pull/3916	21:37:36
Alyssa Ross	I'd rather the moderation room was left for things that require actual attention from a moderator	21:38:50
Sumner Evans	#matrix-discussion:nixos.org is probably a better room for this	21:39:16
Alyssa Ross	(this situation in general requires moderator attention, of course, but the ins and outs of how matrix servers work does not)	21:39:59
Alyssa Ross	I think it's fine to continue this conversation in here for now. That ship has sailed. :)	21:42:18
Zhaofeng Li	But anyways, this is seriously a neat trick that I'll use gently in an altruistic way. Imagine Firefox Send but decentralized and wget-able	21:43:25
Alyssa Ross	having some place for people to be able to talk about any response they might need to make is useful, and this seems to have ended up being that place	21:43:41
[0x4A6F]	In reply to @qyliss:fairydust.space I'd rather the moderation room was left for things that require actual attention from a moderator This room is actual the same for tracking rooms to include into the NixOS space (AFAIK). Unfortunately there is a SPOF here and the backlog is increasing. I'm not sure how to better the situation. I would offer my help, but that needs elevated privileges in the channels for inclusion. Maybe the moderation team can evaluate, if they could also step in. But I would like to defer this discussion, till the batteries are full again after this day. Thanks goes out to the moderation team. <3	21:52:17
Alyssa Ross	I am on the moderation team	21:52:34
	* Zhaofeng Li totally didn't expect to go through the five stages of grief today	21:53:07
Zhaofeng Li	Denial: This can't be true, can it? Anger: Why do people even use Matrix? Who would design such a thing? Bargaining: There has to be some way to lock down my homeserver, right? (Nope, others can't see your images/files) Depression: Wow, people will surely abuse this. You really, really don't want to know what the "grey industry" guys in China do to serve images. Acceptance: Let's make use of this new-found knowledge as a nice citizen.	21:53:32
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12 May 2023
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ckie (they/them)	dang this sucks so much. i hope everyone who had to see that shit is okay 💜 ..do I need to do anything to erase the media from my homeserver as a bystander who saw a media blurhash thumbnail and way too many redact events and noped out before it could load client-side? i.e. does synapse GC remote media when the events are redacted?	02:20:26
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Zhaofeng Li	In reply to @ckie:ckie.dev dang this sucks so much. i hope everyone who had to see that shit is okay 💜 ..do I need to do anything to erase the media from my homeserver as a bystander who saw a media blurhash thumbnail and way too many redact events and noped out before it could load client-side? i.e. does synapse GC remote media when the events are redacted? You do need to quarantine the media IDs on your homeserver and remove the cached images, otherwise any unauthenticated client can request a fetch through your server. Also media files aren't tied to events (they can be reused) so they aren't affected by redactions.	06:09:26
ckie (they/them)	to get the users: $ psql -d synapse -At -c 'select json::json->>'"'"'sender'"'"' as sender from event_json where event_id in ('"'"'$0e2xilbm_gz_eTIoPbyRIOmdDnT2LHVv2NXrE08d8b8'"'"', '"'"'$0ROVLmCOh76LGDg3Mruq16A8Uk-zjlMnWX-q738Uzn4'"'"', '"'"'$0UMBLsIbKtLaWBI4jZWQoQ1S7r-rywa6TxPjebl6wgM'"'"', '"'"'$0UW1yDg4gXhdCoNV4gUGOvDkSToAEydyj11o6T51MNQ'"'"', '"'"'$0W1r4_-t9NhbyP0M9t_JyC2tUSancZKdomLZcvJFeRM'"'"', '"'"'$19xwyv55nkdx7KQMZ00STAeKCivd9dKSjMmTMu4aNaU'"'"', '"'"'$1qiSOCIv_hLAClCY4Zm5y93bDv7uAq_DxoDAcvWt7zs'"'"', '"'"'$2Zpj4F1NxpVxT5U_5OvFkg4Wo7Pbm6Y-9T_NJbUQ_tU'"'"', '"'"'$3mAzOyFeoP43nGKOuS5_R0aFs1uOgqWldKrUcGuNX54'"'"', '"'"'$3mzsz6vTgHv31ioE47kYrcllrtLOOMVYrDvB2UObTII'"'"', '"'"'$3S5nWOywgZOvNmmqnNwNCnrNZCsYQirt5v8ycEOX-tQ'"'"', '"'"'$4DPzd3S5pv0GY4NC3RzLji4NETJIsWw0mtBkKzotT9U'"'"', '"'"'$4Fkgv7OwJLj9k-DTHRy3TpZq1KPP2_JekbqvMEqbYa0'"'"', '"'"'$5-K51JU9C6q_Lk2JxY3NnROXodafPYvGHT1jxVirX_0'"'"', '"'"'$5opM2Y_ON9-UnETHmyxyk-Al3FjXp4clJodeBJHY9RA'"'"', 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