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Actionable suggestions for the Matrix space. Please hold discussion in #matrix-discussion:nixos.org, then bring the suggestion and context here. | https://pad.lassul.us/Nix-Matrix-Suggestions#127 Servers

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7 Jun 2025
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyit's rather something that was done to the rooms a few years ago involving database editing22:48:52
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyunless we've had a room split brain more than once?22:49:17
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI think it has just been "every existing room is cursed to gradually die and need replacing", including e.g. the space room we had to do some months ago22:49:34
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyand once they're recreated it's fine (but the very nature of a split brain means that people might not see the right tombstone/alias)22:49:58
@uep:matrix.orguepok, that alias now resolves as intended for me. I may simply have not realised there were two when I moved it a month or so ago, or maybe the old room kept it / resurrected it because of sync issues22:51:19
@charles:computer.surgeryCharles(tombstones yes but the source of truth for aliases is not room state, it's stored separately)22:51:44
@charles:computer.surgeryCharles* (tombstones yes but the source of truth for aliases is not room state, it's stored and looked up separately)22:51:59
@uep:matrix.orguepyeah, i had to re-issue the tombstone for that one back then too)22:52:22
@uep:matrix.orguep* yeah, i had to re-issue the tombstone for that one back then too22:52:28
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI feel like we've had the space be weird with aliases22:53:09
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyfor whatever reason22:53:14
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily as in #space:nixos.org being the old one for some pople 22:53:22
@charles:computer.surgeryCharlesit's entirely possible there is jank around aliases but it would be different mechanisms of jank22:53:52
@uep:matrix.orguepyes. well.22:54:29
@sandro:supersandro.deSandrocan I somehow force this on my own server?22:55:17
@charles:computer.surgeryCharles
  • https://spec.matrix.org/v1.14/client-server-api/#get_matrixclientv3directoryroomroomalias
  • https://spec.matrix.org/v1.14/server-server-api/#get_matrixfederationv1querydirectory

maybe servers cache these responses which then causes problems?

22:59:29
@charles:computer.surgeryCharleswould have to look at the source code of your particular HS23:00:04
@uep:matrix.orguep does the #offtopic:nixos.org link not go to the right place for you now? (maybe after clearing client cache) 23:00:39
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro Interesting 🤔
On both my devices the nixos.org link goes to the right room, just on my desktop the lossy network does not but on mobile it also goes to the correct room
23:13:11
@sandro:supersandro.deSandroSo client state seems to play role23:13:20
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro
In reply to @charles:computer.surgery
would have to look at the source code of your particular HS
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23:13:42
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro
In reply to @sandro:supersandro.de
Interesting 🤔
On both my devices the nixos.org link goes to the right room, just on my desktop the lossy network does not but on mobile it also goes to the correct room
Or maybe that I am using element x on mobile.
23:14:10
@sandro:supersandro.deSandroOn desktop the room picker displays both rooms identically, on mobile the lossy network one has no display name23:15:02
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8 Jun 2025
@mjolnir:nixos.orgNixOS Moderation Botchanged room power levels.07:36:34
@0x4a6f:matrix.org0x4A6F Actionable suggestions for the Matrix space. Please hold discussion in #matrix-discussion:nixos.org , then bring the suggestion and context here. | https://pad.lassul.us/Nix-Matrix-Suggestions# 07:37:00
@mjolnir:nixos.orgNixOS Moderation Botchanged room power levels.07:37:56
9 Jun 2025
@sigmasquadron:matrix.orgSigmaSquadronI'd like to suggest that #platform-governance:nixos.org, #nixcon23-volunteers:nixos.org, https://matrix.to/#/!PSmBFWNKoXmlQBzUQf:helsinki-systems.de and https://matrix.to/#/!NpVmUOFzFUDocXvwrT:libera.chat be removed from the space, as they no longer serve any purpose and clutter our already massive room list. #platform-governance should have been archived alongside the Zulip, #nixcon23-volunteers was only useful for NixCon 2024, Stage-1 systemd was merged with the main systemd room, and the autogenerated gender minorities invite channel was replaced with https://matrix.to/#/#gm-invites:nixos.org.13:35:59
@sigmasquadron:matrix.orgSigmaSquadron* I'd like to suggest that https://matrix.to/#/#platform-governance:nixos.org, https://matrix.to/#/#nixcon23-volunteers:nixos.org, https://matrix.to/#/!PSmBFWNKoXmlQBzUQf:helsinki-systems.de and https://matrix.to/#/!NpVmUOFzFUDocXvwrT:libera.chat be removed from the space, as they no longer serve any purpose and clutter our already massive room list. #platform-governance should have been archived alongside the Zulip, #nixcon23-volunteers was only useful for NixCon 2024, Stage-1 systemd was merged with the main systemd room, and the autogenerated gender minorities invite channel was replaced with https://matrix.to/#/#gm-invites:nixos.org.13:36:35
@sigmasquadron:matrix.orgSigmaSquadron* I'd like to suggest that https://matrix.to/#/#platform-governance:nixos.org, https://matrix.to/#/#nixcon23-volunteers:nixos.org, https://matrix.to/#/!PSmBFWNKoXmlQBzUQf:helsinki-systems.de and https://matrix.to/#/!NpVmUOFzFUDocXvwrT:libera.chat be removed from the space, as they no longer serve any purpose and clutter our already massive room list. #platform-governance should have been archived alongside the Zulip, #nixcon23-volunteers was only useful for NixCon 2023, Stage-1 systemd was merged with the main systemd room, and the autogenerated gender minorities invite channel was replaced with https://matrix.to/#/#gm-invites:nixos.org.13:36:58

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