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4 Jan 2022
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.deJanne Heß I'd hope Graham is member of all of these. But I think in theory it should work when state is visible without being member 19:49:07
5 Jan 2022
@sumner:nevarro.spaceSumner Evans
In reply to @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de
I'd hope Graham is member of all of these. But I think in theory it should work when state is visible without being member
peeking over federation is not a thing yet, unfortunately
15:13:03
7 Jan 2022
@freshgum-bubbles:halogen.cityfreshgum changed their profile picture.23:12:22
9 Jan 2022
@sigmasquadron:matrix.orgSigmaSquadron joined the room.14:06:25
10 Jan 2022
@sigmasquadron:matrix.orgSigmaSquadron changed their display name from SigmaSquadron to systemd-sigmad.15:39:05
@sigmasquadron:matrix.orgSigmaSquadron changed their display name from systemd-sigmad to SigmaSquadron.17:31:46
12 Jan 2022
@zimbatm:numtide.comzimbatm changed their display name from Jonas Chevalier to Jonas Chevalier (zimbatm).09:39:26
@zimbatm:numtide.comzimbatm changed their display name from Jonas Chevalier (zimbatm) to zimbatm.09:46:04
@legendofmiracles:matrix.orglegendofmiraclesWhat happened here? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/568306982717751328/930936538899021824/unknown.png21:36:43
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.org

Mjolnir has protections to avoid a type of spam that has been common in other spaces, where someone joins and immediately posts graphic images. That protection was enabled, but is now turned off:

Available protections:
πŸ”΄ (disabled) FirstMessageIsImageProtection - If the first thing a user does after joining is to post an image or video, they'll be banned for spam. This does not publish the ban to any of your ban lists.
🟒 (enabled) BasicFloodingProtection - If a user posts more than 10 messages in 60s they'll be banned for spam. This does not publish the ban to any of your ban lists.
πŸ”΄ (disabled) WordList - If a user posts a monitored word a set amount of time after joining, they will be banned from that room. This will not publish the ban to a ban list.
πŸ”΄ (disabled) MessageIsVoiceProtection - If a user posts a voice message, that message will be redacted. No bans are issued.
πŸ”΄ (disabled) MessageIsMediaProtection - If a user posts an image or video, that message will be redacted. No bans are issued.

21:55:13
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgit looks like Mjolnir could be smarter about this, by recognizing participation in other rooms of a space as counting as activity.21:56:19
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgthere was a follow-up issue where after I unbanned both of you from the infrastructure room mjolnir continued redacting your messages, which I'll also report upstream21:57:10
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.org'course, Mjolnir's maintainers are not quick to respond to PRs, so it may be a while before we can re-enable those, so I'll leave them off until we see problems21:59:00
13 Jan 2022
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgRedacted or Malformed Event00:39:27
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgReported the over-eager redactions: https://github.com/matrix-org/mjolnir/issues/180 Reported the space-awareness for the FirstMessageIsImageProtection: https://github.com/matrix-org/mjolnir/issues/18100:40:02
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.org hexa: I guess I should turn off the flood protection one as well? 00:51:44
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgI'm just remembering the issue you brought up a while back (sorry)00:51:54
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaoh yeah, that was an IRC bridged user, couldn't have posted an image πŸ™‚00:52:38
@hexa:lossy.networkhexayep, 10 lines in a row00:53:39
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgI just disabled BasicFloodingProtection too, so there are no other protections.01:13:30
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.org * I just disabled BasicFloodingProtection too, so there are no protections.01:13:56
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgdid the ban get sorted?01:14:07
@hexa:lossy.networkhexathe IRC One? yeah.01:31:57
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa * the IRC one? yeah.01:32:01
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgcool, looks good from matrix too01:33:02
@notgne2:wizbos.clubnotgne2 changed their profile picture.03:45:27
@notgne2:wizbos.clubnotgne2 changed their profile picture.03:48:40
@jkarlson:kapsi.fiEmil Karlsonimo would make sense for there to be tension level, like bot should be more strict, when there seems to more likelyhood of a distributed spam attack06:17:59
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgsounds useful, maybe you could write something up and send them an issue14:30:16
@mjolnir:nixos.orgNixOS Moderation Bot unbanned @blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold.18:44:17

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