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24 May 2021
@domenkozar:matrix.orgDomen Kožar
In reply to @grahamc:nixos.org
under Teams or Topics?
It's kind of like both, so I'd say Topics but neither is wrong :)
11:58:13
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgI'll do Topic :)11:58:30
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgit is really cross-cutting11:58:35
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.org #docs:nixos.org 11:59:12
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.org naming these things is so hard, I really really really hope Matrix finds a way to associate grouping metadata wit the display soon 11:59:34
@pinage404:matrix.orgpinage404in the NixOS space, there is all rooms listed, then groups of rooms containing previously listed rooms, why the rooms are listed twice ?12:03:15
@dandellion:dodsorf.asDandellion
In reply to @pinage404:matrix.org
in the NixOS space, there is all rooms listed, then groups of rooms containing previously listed rooms, why the rooms are listed twice ?
So that you don't have to join every subspace for the rooms to be filterable
12:05:06
@kevincox:matrix.orgkevincox
In reply to @grahamc:nixos.org
naming these things is so hard, I really really really hope Matrix finds a way to associate grouping metadata wit the display soon

This is a hard problem because a room can be a member of multiple spaces. There has been some talk about a room's "main space" which may help but I think this is way down the road.

For now I generally think name a room based on how you would like it to show up in your room list, so generally a short uniqueish string first, then a suffix with a "group" like Nix or NixOS. Then I like to put some disambiguation in the topic. This seems to be fairly well expected but I assume it isn't universal.

12:06:01
@pinage404:matrix.orgpinage404
In reply to @dandellion:dodsorf.as
So that you don't have to join every subspace for the rooms to be filterable
i didn't joined the "Nix Teams" yet, but i can filter ; maybe i didn't understand what you mean
12:08:11
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgyeah, but the problem is we don't have a name for our thing that isn't also a specific other thing12:08:22
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12:08:18
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgNix Documentation? nope. Nix*? maybe. Nix / Nixpkgs / NixOS? now you're cooking12:08:46
@kevincox:matrix.orgkevincox
In reply to @grahamc:nixos.org
naming these things is so hard, I really really really hope Matrix finds a way to associate grouping metadata wit the display soon
*

This is a hard problem because a room can be a member of multiple spaces. There has been some talk about a room's "main space" which may help but I think this is way down the road.

For now I generally try to name a room based on how you would like it to show up in your room list, so generally a short uniqueish string first, then a suffix with a "group" like Nix or NixOS. Then I like to put some disambiguation in the topic. This seems to be fairly well expected but I assume it isn't universal.

12:11:09
@kevincox:matrix.orgkevincox * This is a hard problem because a room can be a member of multiple spaces. There has been some talk about a room's "main space" which may help but I think this is way down the road. For now I generally try to name a room based on how you would like it to show up in your room list, so generally a short uniqueish string first, then a suffix with a "group" like Nix or NixOS. Then I like to put some disambiguation in the topic. This seems to be fairly well accepted but I assume it isn't universal.12:11:23
@domenkozar:matrix.orgDomen KožarI call these things Nix ecosystem, but it's a mouthful12:12:50
@domenkozar:matrix.orgDomen KožarNix* gives it a *Nix vibe so it's slightly less vague than Nix :D12:13:14
@domenkozar:matrix.orgDomen Kožarwe should rename the project to The Nix Way and be done with it ^^12:14:54
@dandellion:dodsorf.asDandellion
In reply to @pinage404:matrix.org
i didn't joined the "Nix Teams" yet, but i can filter ; maybe i didn't understand what you mean
You can filter precisely because they're duplicated. If they were just in subspaces you wouldn't be able to.
12:16:07
@pinage404:matrix.orgpinage404so it's a "hack" to bypass a matrix issue ?12:17:24
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgplease hold discussion elsewhere, otherwise it is very difficult to keep up with requests12:27:00
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.org✨✨✨12:27:47
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.org * please hold discussion elsewhere, otherwise it is very difficult to keep up with requests (I think this came off a bit grumpier than I intended. I'm not grumpy about it :) just a periodic reminder)12:28:48
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434cSuggestion: create a room specifically for discussions of suggestions and directly related issues, to remove doubt what is the most fitting room. (I guess replacing «elsewhere» with a specific room link would also work).12:29:09
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.org great idea: #matrix-discussion:nixos.org :D 12:30:41
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.org changed the room topic to "" from "".12:43:28
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@hmenke:matrix.orghmenkePlease create a #robotnix channel and make @danielrf:matrix.org the admin. For context, robotnix is a framework to build Android (AOSP) images using Nix. https://github.com/danielfullmer/robotnix Daniel also presented this work at NixCon 2020.16:00:16
@hmenke:matrix.orghmenke * Please create a #robotnix:nixos.org channel and make @danielrf:matrix.org the admin. For context, robotnix is a framework to build Android (AOSP) images using Nix. https://github.com/danielfullmer/robotnix Daniel also presented this work at NixCon 2020.16:01:13
@hmenke:matrix.orghmenke * Please create a #robotnix:nixos.org channel and make @danielrf:matrix.org the admin.
For context, robotnix is a framework to build Android (AOSP) images using Nix. https://github.com/danielfullmer/robotnix
Daniel also presented this work at NixCon 2020. https://cfp.nixcon.org/nixcon2020/talk/AK98WZ/
The current chat is on the #robotnix channel on Freenode. Logs are here: https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/robotnix/
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