| 24 May 2021 |
 Dandellion | In reply to @pinage404:matrix.org
in the NixOS space, there is all rooms listed, then groups of rooms containing previously listed rooms, why the rooms are listed twice ? So that you don't have to join every subspace for the rooms to be filterable | 12:05:06 |
 kevincox | In reply to @grahamc:nixos.org
naming these things is so hard, I really really really hope Matrix finds a way to associate grouping metadata wit the display soon This is a hard problem because a room can be a member of multiple spaces. There has been some talk about a room's "main space" which may help but I think this is way down the road.
For now I generally think name a room based on how you would like it to show up in your room list, so generally a short uniqueish string first, then a suffix with a "group" like Nix or NixOS. Then I like to put some disambiguation in the topic. This seems to be fairly well expected but I assume it isn't universal.
| 12:06:01 |
 pinage404 | In reply to @dandellion:dodsorf.as
So that you don't have to join every subspace for the rooms to be filterable i didn't joined the "Nix Teams" yet, but i can filter ; maybe i didn't understand what you mean | 12:08:11 |
 @grahamc:nixos.org | yeah, but the problem is we don't have a name for our thing that isn't also a specific other thing | 12:08:22 |
| pinage404 | 
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| @grahamc:nixos.org | Nix Documentation? nope. Nix*? maybe. Nix / Nixpkgs / NixOS? now you're cooking | 12:08:46 |
| kevincox | In reply to @grahamc:nixos.org
naming these things is so hard, I really really really hope Matrix finds a way to associate grouping metadata wit the display soon * This is a hard problem because a room can be a member of multiple spaces. There has been some talk about a room's "main space" which may help but I think this is way down the road.
For now I generally try to name a room based on how you would like it to show up in your room list, so generally a short uniqueish string first, then a suffix with a "group" like Nix or NixOS. Then I like to put some disambiguation in the topic. This seems to be fairly well expected but I assume it isn't universal.
| 12:11:09 |
| kevincox | * This is a hard problem because a room can be a member of multiple spaces. There has been some talk about a room's "main space" which may help but I think this is way down the road.
For now I generally try to name a room based on how you would like it to show up in your room list, so generally a short uniqueish string first, then a suffix with a "group" like Nix or NixOS. Then I like to put some disambiguation in the topic. This seems to be fairly well accepted but I assume it isn't universal. | 12:11:23 |
 Domen Kožar | I call these things Nix ecosystem, but it's a mouthful | 12:12:50 |
| Domen Kožar | Nix* gives it a *Nix vibe so it's slightly less vague than Nix :D | 12:13:14 |
| Domen Kožar | we should rename the project to The Nix Way and be done with it ^^ | 12:14:54 |
| Dandellion | In reply to @pinage404:matrix.org
i didn't joined the "Nix Teams" yet, but i can filter ; maybe i didn't understand what you mean You can filter precisely because they're duplicated. If they were just in subspaces you wouldn't be able to. | 12:16:07 |
| pinage404 | so it's a "hack" to bypass a matrix issue ? | 12:17:24 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | please hold discussion elsewhere, otherwise it is very difficult to keep up with requests | 12:27:00 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | ✨✨✨ | 12:27:47 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | * please hold discussion elsewhere, otherwise it is very difficult to keep up with requests (I think this came off a bit grumpier than I intended. I'm not grumpy about it :) just a periodic reminder) | 12:28:48 |
 7c6f434c | Suggestion: create a room specifically for discussions of suggestions and directly related issues, to remove doubt what is the most fitting room. (I guess replacing «elsewhere» with a specific room link would also work). | 12:29:09 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | great idea: #matrix-discussion:nixos.org :D | 12:30:41 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org changed the room topic to "" from "". | 12:43:28 |
|  Jez (he/him) left the room. | 15:04:16 |
|  hmenke joined the room. | 15:58:43 |
| hmenke | Please create a #robotnix channel and make @danielrf:matrix.org the admin.
For context, robotnix is a framework to build Android (AOSP) images using Nix. https://github.com/danielfullmer/robotnix
Daniel also presented this work at NixCon 2020. | 16:00:16 |
| hmenke | * Please create a #robotnix:nixos.org channel and make @danielrf:matrix.org the admin.
For context, robotnix is a framework to build Android (AOSP) images using Nix. https://github.com/danielfullmer/robotnix
Daniel also presented this work at NixCon 2020. | 16:01:13 |
| hmenke | * Please create a #robotnix:nixos.org channel and make @danielrf:matrix.org the admin.
For context, robotnix is a framework to build Android (AOSP) images using Nix. https://github.com/danielfullmer/robotnix
Daniel also presented this work at NixCon 2020. https://cfp.nixcon.org/nixcon2020/talk/AK98WZ/
The current chat is on the #robotnix channel on Freenode. Logs are here: https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/robotnix/ | 16:04:52 |
| kevincox | Maybe we should create a sub-space for "community rooms" and we can basically add anything there? They we can promote rooms if they are popular enough or meet some criteria? I think the real question is what is the main point of having the room have a name at nixos.org? Why not just create a room and link to it from your project page. Are you expecting that people using your project will just be browsing the room directory and decide to join? | 16:05:21 |
 philipp | That one already exists: #community-rooms:nixos.org | 16:08:13 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | #robotnix:nixos.org hmenke | 16:44:32 |
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 kraem | what would everyone think of having something like #{feed,updates,{^_^}}:nixos.org for when {^_^} raises from the ashes? | 18:53:05 |
