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| 7 Jun 2025 |
 Sandro | I think we have split brain for offtopic, again...
https://matrix.to/#/#offtopic:nixos.org
https://matrix.to/#/#nix-offtopic:lossy.network
| 21:48:54 |
 uep | I think that's more a case of "still" rather than "again". I'll look into trying to push the alias to the new room again in a bit. | 21:57:04 |
|  @deeok:matrix.org changed their display name from deeok to matrixrooms.info mod bot (does NOT read/send messages and/or invites; used for checking reported rooms). | 22:05:58 |
| Sandro | I am still thinking that this has something to do with what we do with the rooms | 22:46:27 |
| Sandro | I am in like 30 other rooms unrelated to NixOS and this only ever happened to the nixos rooms :P | 22:46:48 |
| Sandro | maybe unlucky | 22:46:51 |
 emily | it's rather something that was done to the rooms a few years ago involving database editing | 22:48:52 |
| emily | unless we've had a room split brain more than once? | 22:49:17 |
| emily | I think it has just been "every existing room is cursed to gradually die and need replacing", including e.g. the space room we had to do some months ago | 22:49:34 |
| emily | and once they're recreated it's fine (but the very nature of a split brain means that people might not see the right tombstone/alias) | 22:49:58 |
| uep | ok, that alias now resolves as intended for me. I may simply have not realised there were two when I moved it a month or so ago, or maybe the old room kept it / resurrected it because of sync issues | 22:51:19 |
 Charles | (tombstones yes but the source of truth for aliases is not room state, it's stored separately) | 22:51:44 |
| Charles | * (tombstones yes but the source of truth for aliases is not room state, it's stored and looked up separately) | 22:51:59 |
| uep | yeah, i had to re-issue the tombstone for that one back then too) | 22:52:22 |
| uep | * yeah, i had to re-issue the tombstone for that one back then too | 22:52:28 |
| emily | I feel like we've had the space be weird with aliases | 22:53:09 |
| emily | for whatever reason | 22:53:14 |
| emily | as in #space:nixos.org being the old one for some pople | 22:53:22 |
| Charles | it's entirely possible there is jank around aliases but it would be different mechanisms of jank | 22:53:52 |
| uep | yes. well. | 22:54:29 |
| Sandro | can I somehow force this on my own server? | 22:55:17 |
| Charles |
- https://spec.matrix.org/v1.14/client-server-api/#get_matrixclientv3directoryroomroomalias
- https://spec.matrix.org/v1.14/server-server-api/#get_matrixfederationv1querydirectory
maybe servers cache these responses which then causes problems?
| 22:59:29 |
| Charles | would have to look at the source code of your particular HS | 23:00:04 |
| uep | does the #offtopic:nixos.org link not go to the right place for you now? (maybe after clearing client cache) | 23:00:39 |
| Sandro | Interesting 🤔
On both my devices the nixos.org link goes to the right room, just on my desktop the lossy network does not but on mobile it also goes to the correct room | 23:13:11 |
| Sandro | So client state seems to play role | 23:13:20 |
| Sandro | In reply to @charles:computer.surgery
would have to look at the source code of your particular HS Synapse | 23:13:42 |
