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25 Jan 2025
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythey were set up with https://github.com/DeterminateSystems/macos-ephemeral at least in the past10:26:51
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.deJanne HeßHmm can't out how to use mosyle10:31:34
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.deJanne Heß* Hmm can't figure out how to use mosyle on the cli10:32:14
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyprobably something for later investigation, but having access to the MDM should help down the line10:33:41
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilycould probably share it with whatever happens for the foundation macs?10:33:51
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.deJanne Heßsounds like a good idea10:37:43
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.deJanne Heßnot sure if that helps but all of the ofborg macs are currently macstadium ones10:38:04
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.deJanne Heßhttps://github.com/ofborg/ofborg-infrastructure/blob/master/macs/flake-module.nix#L22-L6510:38:36
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyright, so I guess the physical macs aren't being used yet10:43:16
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyso getting in touch with Obsidian should help at least a little with capacity all on its own10:43:38
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyif ofborg is currently down one basement from before10:43:57
@adam:robins.wtfadamcstephensWho knows someone at Obsidian and is willing to reach out?14:24:05
@adam:robins.wtfadamcstephensChecking the past couple months of donations, airbnb alone is donating enough monthly to rent the M4 I linked above14:24:33
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434cI am not up to date on any details here, but if you need someone who reads this channel and is regularly in contact with Ryan Trinkle, what excactly should I ask him?14:31:05
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434c* I am not up to date on any details here, but if you need someone who reads this channel and is regularly in contact with Ryan Trinkle, what exactly should I ask him?14:31:14
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434cI guess declaring ofborg team as partially separate from infra team at https://discourse.nixos.org/t/community-team-updates/56458 could also be an option (in the post-NCA non-voting role attached to SC, Ryan will definitely know about that)14:41:00
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434cShould I just ask whether ofborg macs are at Obsidian first? (and then what — would there be room for more, if they get brought to them?)14:44:54
@adam:robins.wtfadamcstephensYeah, do they exist would be the first question for sure. Then expansion would be the next question, either sponsorship or hosting. For example if the Nix+Darwin opencollective bought more, could Obsidian host them. 14:51:50
@adam:robins.wtfadamcstephens(I suggested renting above, but economically I think it's better to purchase hardware if we have places to host them)14:54:13
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434cDefinitely14:54:30
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434cGiven that with high probability they will be in use all the days for a few next years…14:55:21
@adam:robins.wtfadamcstephensexactly14:55:34
@winter:catgirl.cloudWinter
In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
right, so I guess the physical macs aren't being used yet
correct
15:52:33
@winter:catgirl.cloudWinterwe’re working on it, some roadblocks have come up outside of everyone’s control15:52:54
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaevery firefox upgrade will take more than an hour to build15:58:15
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaso either we increase the timeout or don't build certain attributes15:58:38
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434c

Got a reply from Ryan

  • Macs are there
  • Setting up is blocked, as far as he can tell, on Winter trying to get Apple to do something
  • They could host a few more
16:41:22
@winter:catgirl.cloudWinter(#2 is true, but a tad more complicated than that :))16:47:32
@winter:catgirl.cloudWinteror simpler, depending on how you look at it16:47:42
@winter:catgirl.cloudWinteri hope to get this done next week, but ball isn’t in my court16:47:51

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