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@adam:robins.wtf@adam:robins.wtfespecially given that x86_64-darwin, a dying platform, is competing in a much more reasonable amount of time14:01:21
@adam:robins.wtf@adam:robins.wtf * especially given that x86_64-darwin, a dying platform, is completing in a much more reasonable amount of time 14:01:33
@lily:lily.flowersLily Fosteridk how much the macstadium aarch64-darwin builders are now, but tbh we could probably do what we did for hydra and switch our x86_64-darwin builders to aarch64-darwin and just use rosetta14:02:01
@lily:lily.flowersLily Foster
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idk how much the macstadium aarch64-darwin builders are now, but tbh we could probably do what we did for hydra and switch our x86_64-darwin builders to aarch64-darwin and just use rosetta
thoughts on this @[cole-h]?
14:02:38
@adam:robins.wtf@adam:robins.wtfi'd be willing to contribute some money directly towards better aarch64-darwin resources. maybe not enough to fully fund expansion, but i'm willing to try and raise funds from others too14:05:11
@lily:lily.flowersLily Foster
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i'd be willing to contribute some money directly towards better aarch64-darwin resources. maybe not enough to fully fund expansion, but i'm willing to try and raise funds from others too
well tbh i'm thinking if the cost difference isn't that much, we can probably just have 6 aarch64-darwin/rosetta instead of 4 x86_64 + 2 aarch64. but depending on how the x86_64 builders are performing it could be a bit if a performance hit. however given they are mostly idle and the aarch64 queue is mostly behind, i think it may come out in our favor
14:08:13
@lily:lily.flowersLily Foster* well tbh i'm thinking if the cost difference isn't that much, we can probably just have 6 aarch64-darwin/rosetta instead of 4 x86_64 + 2 aarch64. but depending on how the x86_64 builders are performing it could be a bit of a performance hit. however given they are mostly idle and the aarch64 queue is mostly behind, i think it may come out in our favor14:08:26
@lily:lily.flowersLily Fosterif it's not enough, we can probably look at funding more builders from there14:08:47
@adam:robins.wtf@adam:robins.wtfi've found rosetta performance to be pretty good14:08:54
@adam:robins.wtf@adam:robins.wtfgranted i haven't run it at scale, but my M1 mini builds both aarch64 and x86_64 at reasonable speed14:09:25
@lily:lily.flowersLily Fosterit's good yeah! having run a lot of big builds on both though, it's probably only about as good as the older intel processors but that's not bad at all, even if it is a perf hit14:10:01
@adam:robins.wtf@adam:robins.wtfthese macstadium prices are crazy. in 8 months on a M2 Ultra 24 Core Mac Studio, you should have just bought the machine yourself14:11:08
@lily:lily.flowersLily Fosterooof really?14:11:32
@adam:robins.wtf@adam:robins.wtfhttps://www.macstadium.com/pricing14:11:57
@adam:robins.wtf@adam:robins.wtfmaybe 9 months, since they have 2TB drives14:13:08
@adam:robins.wtf@adam:robins.wtfhttps://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/mac-studio/24-core-cpu-60-core-gpu-32-core-neural-engine-64gb-memory-1tb14:13:10
@lily:lily.flowersLily Fosterdamn, i mean we probably could arrange just getting machines. idk if we're paying that price or if we're getting sponsorship from them though14:13:32
@adam:robins.wtf@adam:robins.wtfright14:13:42
@lily:lily.flowersLily Foster* damn, i mean we probably could arrange just getting machines if we end up getting a colo for nixos infra. idk if we're paying that price or if we're getting sponsorship from them though14:13:48
@trofi:matrix.orgtrofi Bringing up https://github.com/NixOS/ofborg/pull/669 ofborg/src/maintainers.nix: look up files pointed by "pos" attribute here again in case it slipped through the cracks. 19:49:06

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