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22 Sep 2024
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434cThe polution will be kind of only in the store … unless the sandbox leaks something09:53:51
@cafkafk:gitter.imcafkafk
## Mac Minis

owner: the NixOS Foundation
access: Dan, Eelco, Rob, Graham
role: build machines

Running at the Utrechs Infor office on a shelf somewhere

## Mac Stadium

owner: MacStadium and rented to daniel peebles or the foundation?
role: build machines

Eelco had a root password

wonder if this is up to date still

09:54:36
@aleksana:mozilla.orgaleksana 🏳️‍⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC)Oh and another problem is the owner may be subject to action by the operator if the operator considers the traffic to be abnormal or illegal content has been accessed09:54:55
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434cWell, you need to publically burn zero days for data loss, but yeah09:55:07
@aleksana:mozilla.orgaleksana 🏳️‍⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC)There are also minor issues such as hard drive depreciation09:55:43
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434cI guess you could put the store on an old 1TB external HDD you no longer trust with durable storage of data?09:56:21
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434c(presumably the people donating compute are the people who can afford some wear and tear and electricity, and who have a hardware rotation process with different reliability expectation)09:57:29
@aleksana:mozilla.orgaleksana 🏳️‍⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC)Is it possible to ask e.g. Amazon for a free rental?09:58:50
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434cI am pretty sure that with the current queue length (and the retries in the current code) a frequently crashing/rebooting intermittently available ofBorg builder for Darwin will be better than not having it as long as it is not actively maliciously lying about the logs/outcomes09:58:57
@aleksana:mozilla.orgaleksana 🏳️‍⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC)* Is it possible to ask e.g. Amazon Cloud for a free rental?09:59:00
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434cI am pretty sure that currently all the Amazon goodwill is used for discounts on the binary cache (both Linux and Darwin)09:59:54
@aleksana:mozilla.orgaleksana 🏳️‍⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC)
In reply to @7c6f434c:nitro.chat
I am pretty sure that currently all the Amazon goodwill is used for discounts on the binary cache (both Linux and Darwin)
We'll not require that soonish btw
10:00:20
@aleksana:mozilla.orgaleksana 🏳️‍⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC)And it's pretty expensive even with the discount lmao10:00:55
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434cI do hope so (and I know about the work being done) hence currently not for the foreseeable future10:01:08
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434cYeah10:01:13
@aleksana:mozilla.orgaleksana 🏳️‍⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC)What about testing build on github workflows? It can be run in a repo set in someone’s GitHub account who don’t use workflow, not sure about ToS10:03:18
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434c Aren't free macOS workflows for open-source projects either very limited or absent? 10:04:48
@aleksana:mozilla.orgaleksana 🏳️‍⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC)(Did we already discuss that10:04:56
@aleksana:mozilla.orgaleksana 🏳️‍⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC)Let me see...10:05:39
@aleksana:mozilla.orgaleksana 🏳️‍⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC)https://docs.github.com/en/actions/using-github-hosted-runners/using-github-hosted-runners/about-github-hosted-runners#standard-github-hosted-runners-for-public-repositories10:07:57
@aleksana:mozilla.orgaleksana 🏳️‍⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC)I'm looking for limit10:08:10
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434cInteresting10:09:49
@aleksana:mozilla.orgaleksana 🏳️‍⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC)https://docs.github.com/en/billing/managing-billing-for-github-actions/about-billing-for-github-actions#included-storage-and-minutes10:10:00
@aleksana:mozilla.orgaleksana 🏳️‍⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC)2000 minutes for free user10:10:13
@aleksana:mozilla.orgaleksana 🏳️‍⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC)per month10:10:17
@aleksana:mozilla.orgaleksana 🏳️‍⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC)https://docs.github.com/en/actions/administering-github-actions/usage-limits-billing-and-administration#usage-limits10:10:28
@aleksana:mozilla.orgaleksana 🏳️‍⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC)5 concurrent macOS jobs (machine)10:10:44
@aleksana:mozilla.orgaleksana 🏳️‍⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC)Each job can run up to 6 hours10:11:05
@cafkafk:gitter.imcafkafkPretty sure you're in breaking ToS territory 10:11:21
@aleksana:mozilla.orgaleksana 🏳️‍⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC)But it seems like GitHub does not allow deploying tasks from remote connection, not from the repository (for free users).10:12:01

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