| 28 Feb 2024 |
 Alyssa Ross | I'm guessing I should, but I don't really know how to tell where the threshold between "aarch64-darwin is way behind" and "OfBorg forgot" is | 14:31:27 |
 hexa | the queue is >200 PRs in size | 14:31:43 |
| Alyssa Ross | Is it FIFO? | 14:31:53 |
| hexa | you're going to want to skip it | 14:31:55 |
| hexa | yes | 14:31:56 |
| hexa | also for more darwin machines we need to find someone who wants to set them up … and ideally maintain them | 14:33:03 |
| hexa | the current infra team also has no control over hydras mac builders | 14:33:30 |
| Alyssa Ross | yikes | 14:33:37 |
| hexa | and we likely have no knowledge about their setup | 14:33:42 |
 adamcstephens | there is a lot of money sitting here: https://opencollective.com/nix-macos/expenses | 14:33:44 |
| adamcstephens | * there is a lot of money sitting here: https://opencollective.com/nix-macos | 14:33:59 |
| Alyssa Ross | domenkozar: ^ | 14:34:22 |
| hexa | scaleway has m2 pro https://www.scaleway.com/en/mac-mini-m2-pro/ | 14:35:02 |
 @domenkozar:matrix.org | I'm happy to pay for machines for ofborg | 14:35:29 |
| @domenkozar:matrix.org | from that budget | 14:35:32 |
| @domenkozar:matrix.org | actually it's already paying for a community darwin machine | 14:35:43 |
| @domenkozar:matrix.org | if someone can coordinate with infra team, then we just submit an expense | 14:36:01 |
| hexa | I think that one is being well received | 14:36:04 |
 @delroth:delroth.net | I mean, more capacity will help, but I can't help but think that there's a bug somewhere and it's not just a capacity issue | 14:39:50 |
| @delroth:delroth.net | The Hydra macs run through a ton of builds every day | 14:40:07 |
| @delroth:delroth.net | Probably at least an order of magnitude more than what ofborg should be using imo | 14:40:32 |
| adamcstephens | do we know the specs of the existing machines? | 14:41:01 |
| hexa | the hydra macs don't have low timeouts | 14:41:13 |
| hexa | they don't have to waste time retrying llvm all day | 14:41:22 |
| adamcstephens | do the hydra macs have to evaluate everything to know whether it needs to be built on darwin? | 14:41:59 |
| @delroth:delroth.net | Can we just stop running ofborg for staging, to start with? :) | 14:42:10 |
| hexa | no, they're pure builders | 14:42:14 |
| @delroth:delroth.net | (do we already?) | 14:42:16 |
| hexa | hydra itself does evaluations | 14:42:18 |
| adamcstephens | that's what i figured | 14:42:23 |
