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17 Aug 2023
@infinisil:matrix.org@infinisil:matrix.org cole-h: I guess, how much of your paid time is a better question 23:03:53
@cole-h:matrix.orgcole-hI don't have a set maximum (or minimum), but I can spend my time on that kind of stuff with relatively little hassle 23:06:31
@infinisil:matrix.org@infinisil:matrix.orgOh and who actually pays for all those machines? The NixOS Foundation?23:06:32
@infinisil:matrix.org@infinisil:matrix.orgSorry for bombarding you with questions :P23:07:17
@cole-h:matrix.orgcole-hThe Linux machines are sponsored by Equinix Metal, the Macs are a mix of Foundation hardware hosted by DetSys and some machines from Macstadium23:07:38
@cole-h:matrix.orgcole-h(Some of the Hydra Macs are from Hetzner, but that's outside my purview :P)23:08:06
@lily:lily.flowersLily Foster
In reply to @cole-h:matrix.org
The Linux machines are sponsored by Equinix Metal, the Macs are a mix of Foundation hardware hosted by DetSys and some machines from Macstadium
(is macstadium sponsoring those or is Foundation paying?)
23:08:21
@infinisil:matrix.org@infinisil:matrix.org
In reply to @cole-h:matrix.org
The Linux machines are sponsored by Equinix Metal, the Macs are a mix of Foundation hardware hosted by DetSys and some machines from Macstadium
I see, thanks!
23:08:30
@infinisil:matrix.org@infinisil:matrix.orgIt's interesting how we have 2 CI's for Nixpkgs but both of them suck lol23:08:57
@cole-h:matrix.orgcole-hIIRC, sponsored, but it's been a while since we set those up so I'm a little fuzzy on the details :P23:08:59
@cole-h:matrix.orgcole-h
In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
It's interesting how we have 2 CI's for Nixpkgs but both of them suck lol
CI is hard 😭
23:09:11
@lily:lily.flowersLily Foster(I mean if someone payed me full-time I'd do a lot of work on the nixpkgs CI story 👀)23:09:45
@infinisil:matrix.org@infinisil:matrix.orgI think it's mainly that we lack the funding to work on CI23:09:53
@lily:lily.flowersLily FosterFunding and I do feel we don't have the dedicated developer bandwidth (which could certainly be solvable, but is I feel a current problem)23:10:38
@lily:lily.flowersLily Foster(funding could also of course provide that bandwidth too)23:10:59
@infinisil:matrix.org@infinisil:matrix.orgFyi I can spend about 50% of my week on Nix ecosystem stuff as I see fit23:11:27
@infinisil:matrix.org@infinisil:matrix.orgCurrently the focus is RFC 140, but I'll have to decide what to focus on after that23:11:54
@infinisil:matrix.org@infinisil:matrix.org(I'll take suggestions)23:12:36
@lily:lily.flowersLily Foster
In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
(I'll take suggestions)
(I mean if you're taking suggestions in the OfBorg room...)
23:12:54
@infinisil:matrix.org@infinisil:matrix.orgHehe23:13:19
@infinisil:matrix.org@infinisil:matrix.orgI'm slowly thinking that CI is the most important thing to focus on23:13:53
@lily:lily.flowersLily FosterI would be interested in at least providing input on that, but my spare time outside of $dayjob (where I bang my head against windows for hours on end...) is admittedly limited so idk how involved I can be23:14:37
@cole-h:matrix.orgcole-hMaybe you could look at why Nixpkgs eval is so slow now 😭23:15:02
@lily:lily.flowersLily Foster(apologies to be inserting myself into this convo... I just have an interest in CI stuff)23:15:04
@lily:lily.flowersLily Foster
In reply to @cole-h:matrix.org
Maybe you could look at why Nixpkgs eval is so slow now 😭
I second this 😭
23:15:16
@infinisil:matrix.org@infinisil:matrix.orgMore context?23:15:25
@cole-h:matrix.orgcole-h(upwards of 10m per outpaths.nix check...)23:15:26
@cole-h:matrix.orgcole-h(last year it was around 5m)23:15:35
@lily:lily.flowersLily Foster
In reply to @cole-h:matrix.org
(upwards of 10m per outpaths.nix check...)
(and like 64G of memory!)
23:15:40
@infinisil:matrix.org@infinisil:matrix.org
In reply to @lily:lily.flowers
(apologies to be inserting myself into this convo... I just have an interest in CI stuff)
No problem at all!
23:15:40

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