| 25 Jan 2025 |
 @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de | https://github.com/ofborg/ofborg-infrastructure/blob/master/macs/flake-module.nix#L22-L65 | 10:38:36 |
 emily | right, so I guess the physical macs aren't being used yet | 10:43:16 |
| emily | so getting in touch with Obsidian should help at least a little with capacity all on its own | 10:43:38 |
| emily | if ofborg is currently down one basement from before | 10:43:57 |
 adamcstephens | Who knows someone at Obsidian and is willing to reach out? | 14:24:05 |
| adamcstephens | Checking the past couple months of donations, airbnb alone is donating enough monthly to rent the M4 I linked above | 14:24:33 |
 7c6f434c | I am not up to date on any details here, but if you need someone who reads this channel and is regularly in contact with Ryan Trinkle, what excactly should I ask him? | 14:31:05 |
| 7c6f434c | * I am not up to date on any details here, but if you need someone who reads this channel and is regularly in contact with Ryan Trinkle, what exactly should I ask him? | 14:31:14 |
| 7c6f434c | I guess declaring ofborg team as partially separate from infra team at https://discourse.nixos.org/t/community-team-updates/56458 could also be an option (in the post-NCA non-voting role attached to SC, Ryan will definitely know about that) | 14:41:00 |
| 7c6f434c | Should I just ask whether ofborg macs are at Obsidian first? (and then what — would there be room for more, if they get brought to them?) | 14:44:54 |
| adamcstephens | Yeah, do they exist would be the first question for sure. Then expansion would be the next question, either sponsorship or hosting. For example if the Nix+Darwin opencollective bought more, could Obsidian host them. | 14:51:50 |
| adamcstephens | (I suggested renting above, but economically I think it's better to purchase hardware if we have places to host them) | 14:54:13 |
| 7c6f434c | Definitely | 14:54:30 |
| 7c6f434c | Given that with high probability they will be in use all the days for a few next years… | 14:55:21 |
| adamcstephens | exactly | 14:55:34 |
 Winter | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
right, so I guess the physical macs aren't being used yet correct | 15:52:33 |
| Winter | we’re working on it, some roadblocks have come up outside of everyone’s control | 15:52:54 |
 hexa | every firefox upgrade will take more than an hour to build | 15:58:15 |
| hexa | so either we increase the timeout or don't build certain attributes | 15:58:38 |
| 7c6f434c | Got a reply from Ryan
- Macs are there
- Setting up is blocked, as far as he can tell, on Winter trying to get Apple to do something
- They could host a few more
| 16:41:22 |
| Winter | (#2 is true, but a tad more complicated than that :)) | 16:47:32 |
| Winter | or simpler, depending on how you look at it | 16:47:42 |
| Winter | i hope to get this done next week, but ball isn’t in my court | 16:47:51 |
| 7c6f434c | Well, trying to get a company to do something tends to leave you with the ball out of your court! | 16:48:54 |
| 7c6f434c | But yeah, maybe you also need Graham to react, which increases the amount of not-yours courts in the game | 16:49:43 |
| adamcstephens | In reply to @winter:catgirl.cloud
(#2 is true, but a tad more complicated than that :)) Can you share more detail on what the blocker is? | 17:15:08 |
| adamcstephens | How much capacity are we talking about? Could be useful to know in this context | 17:27:12 |
 cole-h | In reply to @7c6f434c:nitro.chat
But yeah, maybe you also need Graham to react, which increases the amount of not-yours courts in the game AFAIK, both Graham and I are no longer in the critical path | 22:14:30 |
| cole-h | And I've just now deleted the ofborg cloudamqp instance (after double checking it was empty) | 22:26:41 |
| cole-h | cc @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de-- may want to delete your shovelout user (I imagine that was yours at least), since the instance it's trying to shovel from has been deleted | 22:27:35 |
