| 25 Jan 2025 |
 emily | but maybe you can take over that task :) | 09:56:32 |
| emily | I guess the infra team is not running the ofborg machines even now, so it'd be you guys + Ron + Domen? | 09:57:41 |
 Janne Heß | I'll be honest: I have no idea who is running the machines. I have root ssh access and can do things there but that's all I know/have | 09:58:20 |
| emily | In reply to @adam:robins.wtf
If we’re really getting 1K per month coming in, plenty to cover 125/month https://www.oakhost.net/product/mac-mini-hosting-m4-32gb you can see the accounting at https://opencollective.com/nix-macos | 09:58:42 |
| Janne Heß | I don't even have documentation for the IPs I'm connecting to, I found them in the old ofborg infra repo | 09:58:55 |
| Janne Heß | * I don't even have documentation for the IPs I'm connecting to, I found them in the old ofborg infra repo. Maybe there's more hosts somewhere? | 09:59:09 |
| emily | it's flying circus physically hosting the macs that were previously in the basement I thought? | 09:59:45 |
| emily | @hexa:lossy.network would know | 09:59:53 |
 leona | not yet | 09:59:53 |
| leona | at least | 09:59:55 |
| emily | oh ok :) | 10:00:02 |
| emily | well I was going to say that since the OpenCollective has $13k saved up, if there's a solution for physically hosting the macs already then just buying a couple more would be very cost effective | 10:01:06 |
| emily | but if not then renting for a bit seems plausible | 10:01:36 |
 hexa | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
it's flying circus physically hosting the macs that were previously in the basement I thought? They went to obsidian systems* | 10:02:08 |
| Janne Heß | we might want to move that conversation to #infra:nixos.org, don't we? Since these topics affect all mac infra? | 10:02:20 |
| emily | I think that many people stopped sending money to the OpenCollective when toonn was no longer getting paid for Darwin work so FWIW I'd expect its incomings to be at a low ebb right now (but still more than enough to rent a couple macs) | 10:02:40 |
| emily | In reply to @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de
we might want to move that conversation to #infra:nixos.org, don't we? Since these topics affect all mac infra? I guess? do they? the ofborg macs were distinctly separate back then | 10:03:08 |
| emily | I've never had a super clear picture though | 10:03:27 |
| hexa | They still are | 10:03:29 |
| Janne Heß | They still are, but if we find a very cost-effective and long-term solution, we might do that for all macs | 10:03:36 |
| emily | I think just having some macs lying around at Obsidian is maybe not the ideal level of reliability/security/management interface for Hydra | 10:04:21 |
| emily | but it's probably a very effective way to throw $1.5k at sleeping up ofborg | 10:05:08 |
| emily | uh. speeding 😆 | 10:05:16 |
| emily | anyway let me know if I can help but frankly I'm probably not the most time-effective way to get some emails sent at this point | 10:07:14 |
| emily | getting in touch with Obsidian seems like a very good idea in general if ofborg is currently relying on mystery meat IPs that might randomly go down | 10:07:43 |
| Janne Heß | Not sure that currently happens | 10:08:21 |
| emily | as in those macs aren't currently in use? | 10:11:10 |
| Janne Heß | Ah scratch that, I misunderstood you | 10:11:33 |
| emily | I just mean a line of communication to your colo provider is always a good thing to have :) | 10:12:13 |
| emily | (thanks for all your work on getting ofborg back up, I know there's a ton of stuff to juggle 💜) | 10:12:45 |
