| 31 Dec 2024 |
 @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de | * I don't really see this as your fault, the entire thing of ofborg and equinix was a bit chaotic from my perspective. I see this as something that will likely get better in the future once more steering structures are in place | 10:01:39 |
| @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de | infinisil: The actions already checkMeta, right? | 10:28:00 |
 @infinisil:matrix.org | In reply to @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de
infinisil: The actions already checkMeta, right? Yup | 10:28:44 |
| @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de | Yep, then I can probably remove all nix evals | 10:29:07 |
 7c6f434c | Honestly, it's not just about steering as about administrative, although those are linked | 10:44:04 |
| @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de | In reply to @7c6f434c:nitro.chat
Honestly, it's not just about steering as about administrative, although those are linked I wasn't implying this is the task of any committee or group, rather that communication and organization is a lot easier when it's clear who owns/maintains/manages what which does require some form of structure | 11:12:14 |
| 7c6f434c | I just mean that some of the tasks critical for the improvements you hope for are not yet taken up (some of this is a part of refilling/expanding the foundation board, for example) | 11:17:45 |
| @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de | Yes, I know it's ongoing and hard work and I'm grateful for the people doing it | 11:19:48 |
|  @siraben:matrix.org left the room. | 14:51:22 |
 emily | is the current ofborg eval queue size a metric that can be publicly viewed? | 16:38:10 |
 Alyssa Ross | room topic suggests so :) | 16:38:28 |
| emily | whoops | 16:38:38 |
| emily | Element started hiding that behind a click so I never think to check it any more :/ | 16:38:45 |
| emily | thanks | 16:38:52 |
|  phaer changed their display name from phaer (8650 at 38c3) to phaer. | 19:24:28 |
 adamcstephens | Should we remove the ofborg eval pending check if the build capacity is going offline? I understand it'll be back, but if that's going to be some time it seems cleaner to avoid posting the status at all | 19:28:59 |
| emily | I thought it was being saved at the last minute (but maybe I'm misinformed?) | 20:06:20 |
| adamcstephens | ahhh that would be news to me | 20:07:34 |
| adamcstephens | i know Janne has been working on it, but i got the impression there would be a gap of time | 20:07:50 |
| emily | I have no idea at this point :) | 20:16:55 |
| emily | (more worryingly I'm not sure anyone has a certain idea 😅) | 20:17:11 |
| @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de | Oh man | 20:19:33 |
| emily | I know the Equinix boxes were shut down, but I don't know if the plan was to keep using those for a bit or move immediately to Hetzner or what | 20:20:03 |
| @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de | Currently at a new year's eve celebration, the ofborg suffering will continue tomorrow. Good news, there won't be any eval that you have to wait for | 20:20:28 |
| @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
I know the Equinix boxes were shut down, but I don't know if the plan was to keep using those for a bit or move immediately to Hetzner or what The plan was to migrate something that my company sponsors until a new sponsor ist found (preferably multiple ones), but then someone from Tetaneutral showed up and offered to sponsor a lot of x86_68-linux | 20:22:37 |
| @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de | We do have the central components up, but not the runners yet because there was no time. Tokens and webhook are properly configured so everything can be done internally | 20:23:08 |
| emily | gotcha | 20:24:46 |
| emily | hope some aarch64-linux and aarch64-darwin turn up at some point :) | 20:25:14 |
| emily | (I'm still happy to liaise with Domen / the Foundation for using Nix macOS Open Collective funds to pay for the latter if it turns out to be useful to do so – was planning to have done so already but that was before the whole Equinix thing happened so I was waiting for the ofborg situation to stabilize, since at one point it looked like we were apparently going to use GHA compute instead) | 20:26:27 |
| emily | the actual machine doing ofborg evals is gone now, right? | 21:14:15 |
