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@tomberek:matrix.orgtomberekWhat was the latest analysis/decision on moving old+infrequent access to Glacier?20:31:02
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefeveryone is fairly aligned on that, but i have to ship some pieces to handle aggregating small objects20:36:37
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8 Jun 2024
@zimbatm:numtide.comJonas Chevalier
In reply to @edef1c:matrix.org
everyone is fairly aligned on that, but i have to ship some pieces to handle aggregating small objects
it might be easier to leave those where they are, and only Glacierize(?) large-enough files. it should get us 80% there and be pretty safe since we're not adding additional logic.
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@zimbatm:numtide.comJonas ChevalierI guess we're going to need a separate service for the narinfos to answer queries properly.06:14:37
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefyeah, but that part is easy enough16:02:09
12 Jun 2024
@tomberek:matrix.orgtomberek edef: do you need anything to start "Glacierize"? 21:25:01
@flokli:matrix.orgflokliA big snow cannon 22:39:36
14 Jun 2024
@tpw_rules:matrix.orgtpw_ruleswhat does that mean for users?20:36:05
@tomberek:matrix.orgtomberekProposal: start by copying NARs created prior to 2024. Keep a record of the copy. Meanwhile, we can generate some proposed sets to delete: 1. Unreachable NARs. 2. Infrequently accessed 3. Oldest This would mean that if you would want to build something in one of those sets, you'd have to rebuild. We can try to make this a rarer occurrence, but I will happen. In that case we would need a procedure to either allow you to access old data at your own cost, or to restore it to the mainline cache. 23:29:24
16 Jun 2024
@tpw_rules:matrix.orgtpw_rulesso NARs will not be automatically un-glacierized? by delete here do you mean from the main cache or from glacier? doesn't glacierization increase egress costs?17:08:58
@tomberek:matrix.orgtomberekNo, for simplicity, and at least for now, the idea is to start copying things over. That will be desirable almost no matter what. An automatic retrieval could be nice; perhaps make that "requestor pays". And we can restore some set of objects if we find the popular and useful enough to do so. For deletion, I meant deletion from S3.17:38:06

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