| 21 Aug 2021 |
 matthewcroughan - nix.zone | All in all, what you've so far stated doesn't seem to hold any water. | 04:19:23 |
 6aa4fd | you realize you didn't actually explain why i was wrong, you just told me i was and complained about the misunderstandings of people totally unrelated to me? | 04:20:13 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I have already explained why you were wrong. I added to what I said. | 04:20:34 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I can't prove to you that graphics cards aren't being used in the mining process. I can't prove to you that coal isn't the primary source of power. It requires you do to your own research. | 04:21:10 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | And in fact, the onus is upon you to prove to me that those things are the case, not for me to prove to you that they are not. | 04:21:22 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | So all your left with is your own bias, | 04:21:37 |
| 6aa4fd | there isn't any onus on either of us, we aren't in a court dude, we are having a conversation | 04:22:20 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Alright. | 04:22:38 |
| 6aa4fd | where my goal hasn't been to try and beat you over the head with some kind of perceived intellectual original sin, but to challenge your beliefs in what i feel has been, up to a point, a polite way | 04:22:55 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Well I'm a bit bored now, this isn't the right channel for it anyway, I don't find what you're saying on the topic very interesting anymore. | 04:23:00 |
| 6aa4fd | In reply to @matthewcroughan:defenestrate.it
Well I'm a bit bored now, this isn't the right channel for it anyway, I don't find what you're saying on the topic very interesting anymore. and i find myself sincerely hoping you learn how to make a conversation informative, how did we go from me teaching you that 6in4 is a tunnel, to you trying to give me a lesson in epistemology | 04:26:51 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I am not trying to inform you of anything. I'm sorry you feel that way. | 04:27:22 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I will be more careful about engaging in a conversation about that sort of thing with you again in the future. | 04:27:50 |
| 6aa4fd | my mentality is always to be informative or supportive if I am speaking to someone. but I am also aware my tone goes out the window when I get frustrated, so I apologize. I wish you the best with your ipv6 project | 04:31:53 |
 eyJhb | In reply to @6aa4fd:tchncs.de
it empowers people who can afford expensive graphics cards in areas served by coal fired power plants, i don't even think this point is relevant but the idea that bitcoin is democratic really pisses me off We have quite a lot of coal power plants in DK, but there are so many taxes added to each kWh that bitcoin mining will just loose you money 🙃 | 07:02:12 |
| 6aa4fd | In reply to @eyjhb:eyjhb.dk
We have quite a lot of coal power plants in DK, but there are so many taxes added to each kWh that bitcoin mining will just loose you money 🙃 denmark? is that for carbon tax? | 07:14:33 |
| eyJhb | In reply to @6aa4fd:tchncs.de
denmark? is that for carbon tax? Everything they can think of, they tax. Also, it is hidden under state taxes... Usually they just have "transport" tax + PSO tax + electricity tax (as well)... One kWh where I get electricity is 0.28 EUR | 07:19:41 |
| 6aa4fd | In reply to @eyjhb:eyjhb.dk
Everything they can think of, they tax. Also, it is hidden under state taxes... Usually they just have "transport" tax + PSO tax + electricity tax (as well)... One kWh where I get electricity is 0.28 EUR wow, we have fully renewable here for about both that much | 07:21:26 |
| 6aa4fd | California = here | 07:21:45 |
| eyJhb | Well, I think you can get something cheaper that is fully renewable as well. But... There are so many companies trying to screw you over, that I am unsure if they can be trusted :D | 07:22:22 |
| eyJhb | But generally I would expect the US to be cheaper on such things. ie. your gasoline is basically pennies you pay as far as I remember | 07:22:58 |
| eyJhb | 1 gallon of petrol is 6.12 EUR | 07:23:46 |
| 6aa4fd | In reply to @eyjhb:eyjhb.dk
1 gallon of petrol is 6.12 EUR we get if for maybe 15% cheaper in California, 4.799 usd | 07:33:36 |
| 6aa4fd | but it is like half that in states like Michigan | 07:33:58 |
| eyJhb | Isn't to more like 33%? 4.799 USD => 4.1 EUR :D | 10:44:29 |
| 6aa4fd | In reply to @eyjhb:eyjhb.dk
Isn't to more like 33%? 4.799 USD => 4.1 EUR :D yeah you're right, I am definitely not a mathematician | 15:12:58 |
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