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29 Jun 2025
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilylol you're going to run into a lot of things you don't like I expect17:55:03
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyoccasionally I look at our new user instructions and am like uhhhh17:55:08
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diff --git a/nixos/modules/installer/tools/tools.nix b/nixos/modules/installer/tools/tools.nix
index 1fb95c58bba9..aa3aaed54cea 100644
--- a/nixos/modules/installer/tools/tools.nix
+++ b/nixos/modules/installer/tools/tools.nix
@@ -108,9 +108,9 @@ let
 
     $bootLoaderConfig
       # networking.hostName = "nixos"; # Define your hostname.
-      # Pick only one of the below networking options.
-      # networking.wireless.enable = true;  # Configure WLAN connections declaratively with wpa_supplicant.
-      networking.networkmanager.enable = true;  # Configure network connections interactively with nmcli or nmtui.
+
+      # Configure network connections interactively with nmcli or nmtui.
+      networking.networkmanager.enable = true;
 
       # Set your time zone.
       # time.timeZone = "Europe/Amsterdam";
17:56:04
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilylooks great17:56:22
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17:59:27
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaifconfig 🫠17:59:37
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI think the real question is whether we want to block the installer change on this not pulling WebKitGTK into new headless installs, etc.17:59:39
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywhich is the default plugins nonsense17:59:53
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa
❯ head -n5 configuration/wireless.section.md
# Wireless Networks {#sec-wireless}

For a desktop installation using NetworkManager (e.g., GNOME), you just
have to make sure the user is in the `networkmanager` group and you can
skip the rest of this section on wireless networks.
18:01:07
@hexa:lossy.networkhexalike this?18:01:10
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyat least that's only newfangled polkit stuff, it's probably only been obsolete for like a decade18:04:27
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaI'm not sure where that is coming from tbh18:06:51
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaI see no rule that would look at the login session type18:07:26
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@hexa:lossy.networkhexaand sure enough … meh18:14:17
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa* and sure enough … denied18:14:20
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@hexa:lossy.networkhexaand 3/3 https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/42108218:36:59
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaI should get something for dinner18:37:07
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccoSo I guess the idea of the minimal ISO being able to do an offline install is going out the window? :P18:38:27
@hexa:lossy.networkhexawdym?18:38:39
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerricco(just got caught up reading todays stuff in this room)18:38:42
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerricco well we're making it so the generated configuration.nix enables networkmanager, and you've made it so the ISO doesn't have all the default networkmanager stuff by disabling the plugins 18:39:22
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccowhich isn't that big a deal; I'm kinda shifting my perspective to the graphical ISO being the one we want to be able to do offline installs18:40:00
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaso do you think we should disable recommended plugins by default, because nobodies needs all these vpn plugins?18:39:59
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerricco(for gnome and plasma)18:40:06
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaI think that's the best way out of this18:40:09
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa because loading the default config with enableRecommendedPlugins = false sounds bad 18:40:24
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccowell it's hard to imagine how we would indicate to existing users of those plugins that they need to enable them explicitly now18:40:50
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccoIMO it's fine to just disable them in the minimal ISO. I'd put it in the minimal config though, not the base18:41:16

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