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29 Jun 2025
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyand seems like little overlap15:18:18
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily so the networkmanagermodemmanager dep is not problematic 15:18:27
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily the modemmanager module may be 15:18:29
@k900:0upti.meK900Yeah, NM doesn't support provisioning 802.1x secrets into iwd15:18:45
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyhm no, module looks benign too15:18:59
@k900:0upti.meK900 And iwd doesn't want to deal with external secret providers 15:19:00
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (clat on linux when)we're in the +38 MB range and modemmanager is another 13 MB (just the package output)15:19:12
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily so I don't know what's making modemmanager look huge but I can't corroborate it 15:19:13
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (clat on linux when)* we're in the +38 MB range and modemmanager is another 13 MB (just the package output) we could save15:19:26
@k900:0upti.meK900 And neither side wants to actually sort this out 15:19:35
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily so, again openconnect is by far the hugest part of this 15:19:40
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (clat on linux when)so I'm not feeling strongly about removing it, but I don't think the use case is that great to begin with15:19:45
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily it adds 249.55 MiB to the networkmanager closure 15:19:49
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (clat on linux when)doubt15:19:53
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (clat on linux when)well, not doubt15:19:57
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyout of 520.45 MiB15:19:59
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily nix-tree nixpkgs#networkmanager, look yourself 15:20:08
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (clat on linux when)why do I get such a small closure size increase then?15:20:10
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (clat on linux when)did we have that in there before?15:20:20
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily you aren't eliminating openconnect from networkmanager the package 15:20:24
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyjust the plugin, which is a separate thing that also pulls it in15:20:30
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily get rid of the fix-paths.patch in NM and it should get a lot smaller 15:20:38
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywe have to actually… fix that, of course15:20:46
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (clat on linux when)right, but why does the ISO only become 38 MB larger I don't understand15:21:03
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI don't fully understand the results you're getting but it might just be compression15:21:08
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (clat on linux when)possibly15:21:15
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily but like, openconnect is pulling in GTK 3 15:21:23
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyif we had GTK 3 on the minimal ISO already that's uh…15:21:27
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (clat on linux when)bad15:21:45
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily(I guess we probably do now that I say that…)15:21:45

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