| 27 May 2025 |
 matthewcroughan | * so that basically leaves only one, the tp-link | 11:10:51 |
 emily | "available anymore anywhere other than aliexpress" makes it sound like they're discontinued rather than AliExpress just being the primary storefront for these things :p | 11:11:23 |
| matthewcroughan | they are actually discontinued I believe | 11:11:34 |
| matthewcroughan | and aliexpress holds the only remaining stock | 11:11:40 |
| emily | does the 8310 actually require porting work? AFAIK the important thing is just having the Realtek SoC. | 11:12:08 |
| matthewcroughan | Well yeah, why wouldn't it? | 11:12:19 |
| matthewcroughan | the porting work on the 8300 wasn't even completed | 11:12:29 |
| matthewcroughan | https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/pull/17852 | 11:12:51 |
| emily | idk my impression was that the most important stuff was just SoC-level work and a lot of the per-switch things were bells and whistles. | 11:13:03 |
 magic_rb | oh matthew i found the 8300 | 11:13:03 |
| matthewcroughan | Ah no misremembered, the tp-link tl-st1008f is the half-finished one | 11:13:06 |
| magic_rb | https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005008131101020.html?search_p4p_id=202505270410069407534404494710000034911_1 | 11:13:09 |
| magic_rb | * https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005008131101020.html | 11:13:11 |
| emily | e.g. https://openwrt.org/supported_devices/openwrt_on_switches_faq#are_there_drawbacks | 11:13:14 |
| magic_rb | https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/pull/18071 | 11:13:15 |
| matthewcroughan | "optical port" | 11:13:38 |
| matthewcroughan | does that mean it doesn't support copper? | 11:13:44 |
| matthewcroughan | by some magic | 11:13:50 |
| emily | heh is it some ODM design? | 11:13:52 |
| magic_rb | https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005005777395543.html also this is the same apparently | 11:14:17 |
| matthewcroughan | this would take up basically all of my time | 11:14:21 |
| magic_rb | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
heh is it some ODM design? no fucking clue | 11:14:22 |
| magic_rb | In reply to @matthewcroughan:defenestrate.it
does that mean it doesn't support copper? doubt it, probably stupid marketing | 11:14:41 |
| matthewcroughan | that's a really good find | 11:14:49 |
| emily | matthewcroughan: tbh, if you want to shop for switches with mainline Linux support, I would suggest looking at the DSA and switchdev devices in the kernel tree, and then try to find switches with those chips. there is more than just the Realtek, though I think the Realtek has the advantage of being in a bunch of cheap stuff | 11:15:01 |
| emily | like, you can also find the Mellanox chip in that super pricey one that way. | 11:15:18 |
| magic_rb | look at the last one, on the images it says compatible with copper | 11:15:17 |
| matthewcroughan | What I really want is something I can throw openwrt or anything on, configure once, and leave alone | 11:15:24 |
| emily | I suspect there are options between "super cheap Realtek MIPS AliExpress switches" and "$6k 100 Gbit/s switch" | 11:15:34 |
| matthewcroughan | I just don't want "Super Cloud OS backdoor outdated bloatware" on my switch | 11:15:41 |
