| 14 Jul 2025 |
 n4ch723hr3r | * i thought liquidsoap can take icecast as an input | 14:04:06 |
 matthewcroughan | nono, icecast is where you output to | 14:04:26 |
| matthewcroughan | icecast takes streams as input | 14:04:34 |
| matthewcroughan | and then broadcasts them to many listeners | 14:04:44 |
| n4ch723hr3r | https://github.com/kenellorando/cadence
found this, but also uses icecast | 14:07:05 |
| n4ch723hr3r | https://github.com/cheatsnake/airstation
this seems to work without icecast | 14:08:54 |
| matthewcroughan | Airstation looks nice yeah | 14:10:00 |
| matthewcroughan | would be interesting if liquidsoap could add to it | 14:10:10 |
| matthewcroughan | liquidsoap is the real language to use | 14:12:21 |
| matthewcroughan | it's what https://somafm.com/ is probably using | 14:12:28 |
| n4ch723hr3r | most people porbably use youtube to be honest 😅 | 14:14:18 |
| n4ch723hr3r | * most people probably use youtube to be honest 😅 | 14:14:23 |
 emily | for HLS, MPEG-DASh etc. this is a totally generic widget | 14:14:34 |
| emily | HLS is specifically designed to work with a normal web server | 14:14:51 |
| matthewcroughan | yeah, http streaming | 14:14:50 |
| matthewcroughan | But I need to convince someone else who wants to run icecast in my space that they don't need icecast | 14:15:05 |
| emily | FFmpeg supports most of this stuff also | 14:15:06 |
| n4ch723hr3r | FFMPeg can convert m3u8 <-> audio files so you could just do that | 14:15:54 |
| matthewcroughan | Why are there so many production systems still using Icecast? | 14:16:34 |
 toonn | Why mess with something that works? | 14:16:49 |
| n4ch723hr3r | because its good enough | 14:16:49 |
| matthewcroughan | Only if you have a spare IP to dedicate it to | 14:17:16 |
| matthewcroughan | IPs aren't that easy to come by | 14:17:21 |
| n4ch723hr3r | icecast doesnt support tls, does it? | 14:18:11 |
| n4ch723hr3r | <listen-socket>
<port>8000</port>
<bind-address>127.0.0.1</bind-address>
</listen-socket>
<listen-socket>
<port>8443</port>
<tls>1</tls>
</listen-socket>
<listen-socket>
<port>8004</port>
<shoutcast-mount>/live.mp3</shoutcast-mount>
</listen-socket>
| 14:20:14 |
| n4ch723hr3r | so it seems you can split some things apart | 14:20:24 |
 @saiko:knifepoint.net | In reply to @matthewcroughan:defenestrate.it
Only if you have a spare IP to dedicate it to why do you need a spare IP for icecast to work? I used to run it fine without one | 14:24:35 |
| n4ch723hr3r | the main problem seems to be the inability to put it behind a reverse proxy | 14:25:42 |
| matthewcroughan | Because the only way to run it properly is on port 80/443, if you want a letsencrypt SSL cert, because you can't proxy it | 14:27:24 |
| matthewcroughan | and you have to gen that cert by hand, and it's not automatable and it's awkward | 14:27:45 |
