| 21 May 2025 |
 toonn | Are there good reasons to use fiber in a home past the connection to the outside? (Talking home here, not 100 room mansion.) | 11:05:25 |
 matthewcroughan - nix.zone | you could back up old macintoshes in like minutes with zip drives | 11:05:27 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | usb4/thunderbolt lets you get that same experience with nvmes | 11:05:39 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | * usb4/thunderbolt lets you get that same experience with nvme between laptops | 11:05:45 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | well, fiber is pretty damned cheap | 11:06:07 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | and you can do longer runs, and it runs cooler, and it's thinner | 11:06:20 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | it's superior basically | 11:06:24 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | copper is a bit scarce compared to light cables | 11:06:39 |
 magic_rb | In reply to @toonn:matrix.org
Are there good reasons to use fiber in a home past the connection to the outside? (Talking home here, not 100 room mansion.) Im personally planning to not have any storage in desktop and not keep any data in my laptop, so i need a fast enough network for nfs. And the latency of fiber should also be lower hopefully. | 11:07:00 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I think there's no reason not to use fiber in 2025, given the costs are quite cheap | 11:07:08 |
| magic_rb | But for a hackerspace i dont really see a point | 11:07:15 |
| magic_rb | In reply to @matthewcroughan:defenestrate.it
I think there's no reason not to use fiber in 2025, given the costs are quite cheap Oh there is a reason to not use fiber, its very simple, youre not a massive nerd -> you dont need fiber | 11:07:33 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | ah you want plan9 | 11:07:34 |
| magic_rb | 99% of people are happy with gigabit | 11:07:51 |
| magic_rb | In reply to @matthewcroughan:defenestrate.it
ah you want plan9 No i just want linux boxes connected over nfs | 11:07:59 |
| magic_rb | But i do agree with matthew that fiber is cheap, though not that cheap | 11:09:54 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | it's cheap, and getting cheaper | 11:10:02 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | copper is not getting less rare, and it's not getting cheaper | 11:10:11 |
| magic_rb | Its still much cheaper to find a old cat5 cable somewhere in a landfill | 11:10:16 |
| magic_rb | And the switches are much cheaper | 11:10:26 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | fiber optic is also more secure | 11:10:29 |
| magic_rb | And you dont need sfp module | 11:10:31 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | if you want to tap copper, you just wrap soemthing around the cable and observe it | 11:10:56 |
| magic_rb | In reply to @matthewcroughan:defenestrate.it
it's cheap, and getting cheaper Well, to run fiber in my new place itll be 200 euros, which is not cheap | 11:10:57 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | * if you want to tap copper, you just wrap something around the cable and observe it | 11:11:01 |
 Spaenny | Well never have to run it again | 11:11:24 |
| magic_rb | In reply to @matthewcroughan:defenestrate.it
if you want to tap copper, you just wrap soemthing around the cable and observe it And with fiber you chop the fiber and observe it, whats you point. If you want p2p security you need p2p encryption | 11:11:46 |
| magic_rb | In reply to @spaenny:tchncs.de
Well never have to run it again I may be moving again in a year or two, so in fact ill have to take it out of the floor. No one after me will appreciate having fiber in the floor | 11:12:14 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Well that's the difference between invasive and non-invasive surgery | 11:12:21 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | one is a lot worse than the other | 11:12:25 |
