| 24 Jun 2025 |
 hexa | yeah, but networkmanager? | 13:15:27 |
| hexa | dhcpcd? | 13:15:29 |
| hexa | not too sure | 13:15:34 |
 emily | actually I'm getting deja vu so maybe we talked about this before :) | 13:15:35 |
| emily | does NM do it too? silly | 13:15:43 |
| hexa | probably some version did 🙂 | 13:15:54 |
| emily | it's a total misreading of the RFC to respect that flag without setting up CLAT | 13:15:55 |
| hexa | and you know your LTS linuxes out there | 13:15:59 |
| hexa | this is absolutely about proper client discipline of course | 13:16:21 |
| hexa | 
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| hexa | openwrt exposes that as a knob 🥳 | 13:17:04 |
| emily | I didn't know WiFi even did multicast | 13:17:16 |
| hexa | uhh, at like base rate | 13:17:40 |
| hexa | so yeah, but slow | 13:18:03 |
| hexa | the fast rates are unicast only | 13:18:11 |
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 Sandro 🐧 | for us I think it also broke KDE Connect and MacBooks don't like it | 13:44:41 |
| hexa | we only rolled it out for Android 10+ | 13:45:02 |
| Sandro 🐧 | Do you have ipv4only.arpa set? | 13:45:03 |
| hexa | so that was not a concern | 13:45:07 |
| hexa | no | 13:45:11 |
| hexa | on MacOS Safari used to break when we last tried such a setup | 13:45:24 |
| hexa | not super motivated, given that I don't have people with apple hardware in my close vicinity | 13:45:59 |
| hexa | * not super motivated to retry that, given that I don't have people with apple hardware in my close vicinity | 13:46:06 |
| emily | macOS has native CLAT support and should auto-detect the relevant flags and do the right thing | 13:47:09 |
| emily | I think the only desktop OS where it reportedly "just works" | 13:47:28 |
| hexa | that is what I thought | 13:47:30 |
