| 29 Jun 2025 |
 hexa | it does allow some more cleanup though, because the module does some stuff unconditionally for plugins | 15:54:22 |
| hexa | like create /var/lib/misc for dnsmasq leases!? | 15:54:44 |
| hexa | though that is probably unrelated to plugins | 15:54:59 |
| hexa | https://github.com/nixos/nixpkgs/commit/f4de446573887d6241bbd64ad3e7a67c336a4aee | 15:56:10 |
| hexa | and sure enough they do use that path https://github.com/search?q=repo%3Aimp%2Fdnsmasq%20%2Fvar%2Flib%2Fmisc&type=code | 15:57:01 |
 emily | does it really use dnsmasq out of the box? | 15:58:08 |
| hexa | without openconnect i'm down to +9 MB | 15:58:30 |
| hexa | we probably won't get nm for free, but it will be super cheap for a lot of UX gain
| 15:58:36 |
| hexa | probably when you set up an AP | 15:58:41 |
| hexa | or some form of connection sharing | 15:58:46 |
| hexa | 
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| emily | seems totally fine. ModemManager should be free since it's already a NM dep | 16:03:00 |
| hexa | have an option to put a thing in a list | 16:03:02 |
| emily | time to install over 5G | 16:03:05 |
| hexa | arch makes modemmanager an optional dep | 16:03:15 |
| hexa | I think we should too, but it probably doesn't make too big a dent either way | 16:03:35 |
| emily | not sure it's worth since it's so small | 16:03:40 |
| emily | why distinguish WiFi and WWAN unless the latter actually pulls in something big? | 16:03:48 |
| hexa | everyone and their dog has WLAN | 16:04:03 |
| hexa | cellular networking usually comes with traffic caps | 16:04:17 |
| hexa | * everyone and their dog has WLAN and it is mostly free | 16:04:28 |
| emily | eh | 16:05:00 |
| emily | you can get unlimited 5G here for cheaper than Americans pay for data capped fibre | 16:05:08 |
| hexa | 
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| hexa | t-mobile in DE | 16:05:39 |
| emily | wow | 16:05:59 |
| emily | we can include ModemManager outside of Germany then | 16:06:13 |
| hexa | I have 10 GB on 5G for 10 EUR/mo fwiw | 16:06:17 |
| emily | unlimited 5G is available for <€18/month here | 16:06:54 |
| emily | "hundreds of gigs" level is quite a bit cheaper still | 16:07:21 |
