| 29 Jun 2025 |
 emily | from the NetworkManager.conf official docs | 15:10:30 |
 K900 | https://community.kde.org/Distributions/Packaging_Recommendations does not mention NM whatsoever | 15:10:33 |
| emily | https://www.networkmanager.dev/docs/api/1.40/NetworkManager.conf.html#settings-plugins and the list does not include any of that stuff | 15:10:39 |
| emily | I would maybe keep OpenVPN and just kill the rest | 15:11:41 |
| emily | but it would be good to see what e.g. Ubuntu ship | 15:11:46 |
| emily | oh FFS | 15:12:42 |
| emily | hexa (clat on linux when): NM package has a hard openconnect dependency even though NM itself doesn't | 15:13:05 |
| emily | because
- path = nm_utils_file_search_in_paths("openconnect",
- "/usr/sbin/openconnect",
- DEFAULT_PATHS,
- G_FILE_TEST_IS_EXECUTABLE,
- NULL,
- NULL,
- error);
- if (!path)
- return FALSE;
+ path = "@openconnect@/bin/openconnect";
| 15:13:16 |
 hexa | lovely | 15:13:32 |
| emily | it should just look it up in $PATH | 15:13:40 |
| emily | and we can add things to the service's $PATH | 15:13:44 |
| emily | like normal | 15:13:46 |
| emily | it's possible nm_utils_file_search_in_paths even does hat, I don't know what DEFAULT_PATHS is | 15:13:56 |
| emily | we're definitely sure we want this instead of one option to turn on wired DHCP for networkd right? :P | 15:14:20 |
| hexa | yes, we're sure | 15:15:02 |
| hexa | our networkmanager packaging being bad doesn't change that 😄 | 15:15:09 |
| emily | DEFAULT_PATHS is specific to this file and separate from the global NM_PATHS_DEFAULT | 15:15:17 |
| K900 | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
we're definitely sure we want this instead of one option to turn on wired DHCP for networkd right? :P Yeah especially for wireless | 15:15:20 |
| emily | very cool | 15:15:25 |
| emily | and it does not check actual $PATH | 15:15:45 |
| hexa | do we really need modemmanager on the installer iso though? | 15:15:51 |
 @saiko:knifepoint.net | why not just iwd for wireless? | 15:16:01 |
| hexa | to pull multiple gigabytes of outputs from the cache | 15:16:13 |
| hexa | that sounds a bit unrealistic | 15:16:17 |
| hexa | crappy eap support | 15:16:24 |
| @saiko:knifepoint.net | ahh.. :( | 15:16:32 |
| emily | I'm not seeing gigabytes | 15:16:44 |
| hexa | iirc the story is … drop your eap profiles into /var/lib/iwd somewhere | 15:16:51 |
| hexa | and you cannot configure them interactively from networkmanager | 15:16:58 |
| hexa | you know, the profiles, that your infrastructure administrator hands to you | 15:17:12 |
