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29 Jun 2025
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily I'm git blameing 15:04:35
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI will have answers soon15:04:38
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilycurrently I am in 201515:05:08
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI think it's fine for graphical fwiw15:05:56
@hexa:lossy.networkhexathe graphical iso is close to 4 GiB15:06:21
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaand the minimal is already around 1.7 GiB15:06:41
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythe graphical ISO already has two WebKitGTKs :P15:07:13
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyand always will have at least one15:07:15
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythat's not changing, it's a hard dependency of GNOME15:07:26
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily anyway, I'm arriving at things like fb5a616b020b9a769021add02379a431ea507a83 15:07:31
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI do not think this list is any kind of upstream recommendation15:07:37
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI doubt it is comprehensively all the upstream maintained plugins either15:07:43
@brisingr05:matrix.org@brisingr05:matrix.org joined the room.15:08:37
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyNetworkManager-openconnect is part of the GNOME org on the GitLab, not the NetworkManager one15:08:49
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI suspect that these plugins should move to the GNOME and Plasma configs in line with upstream recommendations for both15:09:04
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyand not be part of the NM module15:09:09
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI assume Plasma probably has a list of recommended NM packages15:09:16
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyit also does not seem like other distros ship that OpenConnect plugin by default15:09:47
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI see no upstream recommendations about plugins15:09:59
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyThe default value and the number of available plugins is distro-specific. See the section called “Plugins” below for the available plugins. Note that NetworkManager's native keyfile plugin is always appended to the end of this list (if it doesn't already appear earlier in the list).15:10:20
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily from the NetworkManager.conf official docs 15:10:30
@k900:0upti.meK900https://community.kde.org/Distributions/Packaging_Recommendations does not mention NM whatsoever15:10:33
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyhttps://www.networkmanager.dev/docs/api/1.40/NetworkManager.conf.html#settings-plugins and the list does not include any of that stuff15:10:39
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI would maybe keep OpenVPN and just kill the rest15:11:41
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilybut it would be good to see what e.g. Ubuntu ship15:11:46
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyoh FFS15:12:42
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily hexa (clat on linux when): NM package has a hard openconnect dependency even though NM itself doesn't 15:13:05
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily

because

-    path = nm_utils_file_search_in_paths("openconnect",
-                                         "/usr/sbin/openconnect",
-                                         DEFAULT_PATHS,
-                                         G_FILE_TEST_IS_EXECUTABLE,
-                                         NULL,
-                                         NULL,
-                                         error);
-    if (!path)
-        return FALSE;
+    path = "@openconnect@/bin/openconnect";
15:13:16
@hexa:lossy.networkhexalovely15:13:32
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily it should just look it up in $PATH 15:13:40

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