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29 Jun 2025
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywould be good to figure out if "default" is a judgement we're making or NM upstream is making15:00:38
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (clat on linux when)if these are default recommendations that's not my place15:00:46
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (clat on linux when)yeah, I hoped this is upstream making it15:00:54
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI am not sure these are upstream recommendations. I am checking15:01:00
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (clat on linux when)the nm module needs some love as well 😄 15:01:18
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyso15:02:48
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyapparently at least one of these plugins pulls in WebKitGTK15:02:54
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyfor captive portals15:02:55
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (clat on linux when)yes, but no, but yes 🫠15:03:16
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (clat on linux when)capitve portal support kinda important15:03:36
@k900:0upti.meK900These are all the upstream developed plugins15:03:40
@k900:0upti.meK900I think15:03:41
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (clat on linux when)but not for the price of a webkitgtk15:03:42
@k900:0upti.meK900I don't think we should ship them on the minimal image though15:03:53
@k900:0upti.meK900People with fancy VPN setups probably want the graphical anyway15:04:02
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (clat on linux when)we shouldn't ship them on graphical either15:04:13
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (clat on linux when)the images are too big already lmao15:04:29
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily I'm git blameing 15:04:35
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI will have answers soon15:04:38
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilycurrently I am in 201515:05:08
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI think it's fine for graphical fwiw15:05:56
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (clat on linux when)the graphical iso is close to 4 GiB15:06:21
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (clat on linux when)and the minimal is already around 1.7 GiB15:06:41
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythe graphical ISO already has two WebKitGTKs :P15:07:13
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyand always will have at least one15:07:15
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythat's not changing, it's a hard dependency of GNOME15:07:26
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily anyway, I'm arriving at things like fb5a616b020b9a769021add02379a431ea507a83 15:07:31
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI do not think this list is any kind of upstream recommendation15:07:37
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI doubt it is comprehensively all the upstream maintained plugins either15:07:43
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