| 29 Jun 2025 |
 hexa | entering the distro through the graphical installer is a mistake | 05:09:39 |
 ElvishJerricco | I've kinda come around on that. I used to think so too. But it really does ease the entrypoint into NixOS so you can start messing with it from a comfortable, already-installed position | 05:10:33 |
| ElvishJerricco | it's just not very well implemented from a maintenance perspective | 05:11:03 |
| hexa | if it were only about having a graphical interface to more comfortably set it up then we could yeet the calamares installer | 05:11:49 |
| ElvishJerricco | Oh? | 05:12:22 |
| ElvishJerricco | to me it's about being able to install nixos without knowing how to install nixos. Installing nixos is not the normal experience of using nixos, so letting a program do it isn't really missing out on a core learning experience | 05:14:28 |
| hexa | I'm probably and old person by now, but I like to do the partiitioning manually and hate the options offered by graphical installers | 05:15:30 |
| hexa | * I'm probably sound like an old person by now, but I like to do the partiitioning manually and hate the options offered by graphical installers | 05:15:38 |
 uep | people are nervous (or at least uncertain) about partitioning and making filesystems as the first step, and it's somewhat tedious regardless. That's at least 80% of the need tbh | 05:15:46 |
| ElvishJerricco | I mean yea me too but that's because I know how to do it and also have strong opinions on it :P | 05:15:52 |
| hexa | like I think haskell got it right | 05:16:13 |
| hexa | avoid success at all cost | 05:16:18 |
| ElvishJerricco | lol yea | 05:16:40 |
| uep | me three, but if you just want to try out a new distro it's a lgitimate obstacle | 05:17:14 |
| ElvishJerricco | yep | 05:17:23 |
| uep | * me three, but if someone just wants to try out a new distro it's a legitimate obstacle | 05:17:31 |
| hexa | fiiiiine | 05:17:34 |
| ElvishJerricco | the graphical installer has no doubt been a huge contributor to NixOS's large increase in popularity in the past two years | 05:17:45 |
| uep | and thus | 05:18:05 |
| hexa | yeah, and I'm not sure I like that 😛 | 05:18:07 |
| ElvishJerricco | (granted, I for one do not value "growing the userbase" like other people seem to) | 05:18:17 |
| hexa | I feel like the average committer we've onboarded these last few years has been a nuisance | 05:18:32 |
| hexa | well, that's probably a bit too strong, but you know what I mean | 05:19:03 |
| hexa | we're attracting a different crowd now | 05:19:17 |
| ElvishJerricco | Yea I think people often don't realize that growth is actually a problem because it puts more demand on everything you do, and growing the tools / people to meet that demand quickly is very very difficult | 05:19:25 |
| hexa | one that jumps at the graph where we have the most and the freshest packages | 05:19:33 |
| hexa | sigh | 05:19:34 |
| hexa | 
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| hexa | lol. | 05:20:14 |
| ElvishJerricco | images still won't load :( | 05:22:16 |
