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 Sandro 🐧 | for us I think it also broke KDE Connect and MacBooks don't like it | 13:44:41 |
 hexa | we only rolled it out for Android 10+ | 13:45:02 |
| Sandro 🐧 | Do you have ipv4only.arpa set? | 13:45:03 |
| hexa | so that was not a concern | 13:45:07 |
| hexa | no | 13:45:11 |
| hexa | on MacOS Safari used to break when we last tried such a setup | 13:45:24 |
| hexa | not super motivated, given that I don't have people with apple hardware in my close vicinity | 13:45:59 |
| hexa | * not super motivated to retry that, given that I don't have people with apple hardware in my close vicinity | 13:46:06 |
 emily | macOS has native CLAT support and should auto-detect the relevant flags and do the right thing | 13:47:09 |
| emily | I think the only desktop OS where it reportedly "just works" | 13:47:28 |
| hexa | that is what I thought | 13:47:30 |
| emily | (Windows still gates its support for WWAN only…) | 13:47:34 |
| Sandro 🐧 | it fixed some olde androids for us | 13:50:37 |
| Sandro 🐧 | iPhones also work fine | 13:50:50 |
| hexa | if it doesn't fix sip that is not helping | 13:58:44 |
| hexa | I mean, part of the issue was that the access concentrator was on IPv4 only | 13:59:08 |
| Sandro 🐧 | probably not | 14:55:54 |
| Sandro 🐧 | could be that it is similar to what breaks kde connect | 14:56:01 |
| Sandro 🐧 | it partically works but as soon as you want to send a file and it tries to do ssh for that it breaks | 14:56:25 |
| Sandro 🐧 | as for that it uses ipv4 and the eg. laptop does not accept the IP from the proxy | 14:56:39 |
| hexa | we only provided 464xlat and not for linux | 14:57:04 |
| hexa | nothing sets up a clat on linux automatically | 14:57:11 |
 Tom | At least on Apples Mobile Systems (iOS/iPadOS) they aren't doing proper source address selection for the CLAT.
They'll happily use a seemingly random one of the configured ones. Even deprecated or ULA doesn't seem to bother them. :/ | 15:13:12 |
| emily | fun | 15:14:30 |
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 matthewcroughan - nix.zone | In what way is a bridge different from a macvtap? | 16:44:43 |
 adamcstephens | a macvtap is for creating a new interface attached to another individual interface. A bridge can link, or "bridge", multiple interfaces together | 16:46:02 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I'm trying to make a nixos module for this https://github.com/lampmerchant/tashrouter?tab=readme-ov-file#creating-a-macvtap-device | 16:48:24 |
