| 2 Jun 2025 |
 emily | macOS definitely supports MTU < 1500 | 13:14:55 |
 magic_rb | yeah probably | 13:15:04 |
| magic_rb | but its interesting that the fragmenetation broke it anyway | 13:15:24 |
| magic_rb | id expect it to be slower, but work | 13:15:28 |
 hexa | mssfix | 13:16:56 |
| emily | is there anything I can set to make sure none of the legacy networking.* stuff gets used? not sure if anything but networking.useDHCP = false; is needed to get it out of the way | 13:22:56 |
| emily | (yes I should have gone all-in on networkd sooner) | 13:24:04 |
 K900 | Uhh you can probably assert on the existence of network-setup.service or whatever | 13:27:33 |
| emily | magic_rb: looks like pppoe.so is in fact rp-pppoe these days. or at least a fork of it upstream in ppp or something. | 13:31:03 |
| emily | https://github.com/ppp-project/ppp/blob/6f3bf58b846fb320db7f68e9ecbda7992c396750/Changes-2.4#L33-L35 | 13:31:35 |
| emily | at least a common ancestry | 13:31:38 |
| emily | no idea which is better. | 13:31:46 |
| K900 | Man | 13:33:31 |
| K900 | This is giving me flashbacks | 13:33:36 |
| K900 | To when I had a giga cursed small town ISP | 13:33:44 |
| emily | I don't suppose anyone has written a from-scratch PPPoE thing in Rust or something. | 13:34:14 |
| K900 | That ran L2TP | 13:34:19 |
| K900 | And that was before xl2tpd | 13:34:54 |
|  finga joined the room. | 18:29:41 |
| 3 Jun 2025 |
 matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | Anyone have any idea how the Macintosh IIgs boots? | 17:32:28 |
| matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | http://apple2.guidero.us/doku.php/mg_notes/apple_ii_atlk/iigs_netboot | 17:33:31 |
| matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) |
The system has a very minimal AppleTalk stack built into the ROM. It is capable of NBP lookups, ATP, and the lower level protocols to support these, and not much else. The stage 0 code performs an NBP lookup for Apple //gs. When it finds it, it retrieves the stage 1 code using ATP requests in the same fashion as the Workstation Card retrieves its boot blocks. The image is usually called ProDOS16 Boot Blocks
| 17:33:41 |
| matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | Though i never find this NBP Lookup in Wireshark, though I do for other Macintoshes, such as LCIII and SE30 | 17:34:07 |
| matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | * Though I never find this NBP Lookup in Wireshark, though I do for other Macintoshes, such as LCIII and SE30 | 17:34:15 |
| matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | relates to NixOS because I'm implementing a module for atalkd which uses Linux's CONFIG_APPLETALK | 17:34:30 |
| matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | Doubt to find any Macintosh people around, but might be pleasantly surprised | 17:36:47 |
| hexa | offtopic | 17:40:24 |
| hexa | networking on nixos would be on-topic | 17:41:07 |
 adamcstephens | not just Macintosh people, but those who know about 40 year old Macintosh. seems doubtful indeed, and definitely off topic | 17:45:58 |
| magic_rb | @matthewcroughan:defenestrate.it @emilazy:matrix.org remember the weird switch that can supposedly run owrt, someone was just asking on the irc channel how to change the modes on the sfp. So yes it can indeed run owrt | 21:49:26 |
