| 26 Jan 2025 |
 adamcstephens | there are others in the space too. zerotier, netmaker, firezone, with likely various trade offs i haven't researched | 14:39:55 |
 K900 | In reply to@magic_rb:matrix.redalder.org
And netbirds android app is only published on google play. Right so that disqualifies netbird immediately https://github.com/netbirdio/android-client ? | 14:40:26 |
 magic_rb | Ill probably stick to my non mesh setup, i rarely need connectivity between two "user devices" | 14:40:27 |
| magic_rb | In reply to @k900:0upti.me
https://github.com/netbirdio/android-client ? Yeah but they dont publish built apks or publish on fdroid | 14:40:46 |
| magic_rb | So id have to build it myself | 14:40:50 |
| adamcstephens | Is anybody in here actively using netbird? | 15:00:19 |
 raitobezarius | Yes | 15:24:58 |
| raitobezarius | In reply to @f0x:pixie.town
wireguard mesh does rely on configuring connections for all peers on all peers, which is easy enough with a shared nix declaration, but a pain to do manually There's simpler tooling to form the mesh using gossip protocols these days | 15:26:27 |
| raitobezarius | It's good to distinguish mesh forming, NAT traversal and the control plane distributing keys and stuff | 15:26:46 |
 alina🏳️⚧️🐾 | In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
There's simpler tooling to form the mesh using gossip protocols these days i want to minimize key material exchange traffic by generating any config and supplying PSKs, wireguard+rosenpass is perfect for that | 16:59:02 |
| alina🏳️⚧️🐾 | and wgautomesh just isn't enough/fitting for my use case so i wrote my own thing | 16:59:58 |
| 28 Jan 2025 |
 Tom | I would like to see my bird3 PR beeing merged: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/366190
Any committer around to take a look? 😅 | 11:50:20 |
| adamcstephens | It seems there’s some disagreement on how to make the transition. Maybe a bird user could weigh in, if one is in here | 12:32:18 |
| Tom | From what i can tell (but i might be a tad biased :D) there are more comments+reactions towards not doing it based on the stateVersion. But more input would be of course good. :) | 12:42:05 |
 hexa (clat on linux when) | configuration is not state, so using stateVersion would be wrong anyway | 12:46:46 |
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| Emma [it/its] | okay, doing some network shenanigans - how can i add a route on my desktop to route to a device via my laptop? | 15:34:26 |
| Emma [it/its] | ive set up a NAT on my laptop, no firewall | 15:34:38 |
| K900 | ip route add that.other.thing via your.laptop | 15:35:01 |
| Emma [it/its] | 
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| Emma [it/its] | woohoo, thanks! | 15:36:09 |
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