| 29 Jun 2025 |
 emily | at least that's only newfangled polkit stuff, it's probably only been obsolete for like a decade | 18:04:27 |
 hexa (clat on linux when) | I'm not sure where that is coming from tbh | 18:06:51 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | I see no rule that would look at the login session type | 18:07:26 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | 
Download image.png | 18:14:04 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | and sure enough … meh | 18:14:17 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | * and sure enough … denied | 18:14:20 |
|  cnm joined the room. | 18:30:55 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | and 3/3 https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/421082 | 18:36:59 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | I should get something for dinner | 18:37:07 |
 ElvishJerricco | So I guess the idea of the minimal ISO being able to do an offline install is going out the window? :P | 18:38:27 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | wdym? | 18:38:39 |
| ElvishJerricco | (just got caught up reading todays stuff in this room) | 18:38:42 |
| ElvishJerricco | well we're making it so the generated configuration.nix enables networkmanager, and you've made it so the ISO doesn't have all the default networkmanager stuff by disabling the plugins | 18:39:22 |
| ElvishJerricco | which isn't that big a deal; I'm kinda shifting my perspective to the graphical ISO being the one we want to be able to do offline installs | 18:40:00 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | so do you think we should disable recommended plugins by default, because nobodies needs all these vpn plugins? | 18:39:59 |
| ElvishJerricco | (for gnome and plasma) | 18:40:06 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | I think that's the best way out of this | 18:40:09 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | because loading the default config with enableRecommendedPlugins = false sounds bad | 18:40:24 |
| ElvishJerricco | well it's hard to imagine how we would indicate to existing users of those plugins that they need to enable them explicitly now | 18:40:50 |
| ElvishJerricco | IMO it's fine to just disable them in the minimal ISO. I'd put it in the minimal config though, not the base | 18:41:16 |
 Alyssa Ross | In reply to @elvishjerricco:matrix.org
well it's hard to imagine how we would indicate to existing users of those plugins that they need to enable them explicitly now Sometimes things just have to go in the release notes | 18:41:41 |
| ElvishJerricco | I'd like to make the graphical ISO able to install offline; I think the minimal one is going to be a lost cause as we seek to make cuts from it. | 18:42:08 |
| ElvishJerricco | (I dunno; I'd really like to make them both able to do offline) | 18:42:48 |
| emily | opposite | 18:43:22 |
| emily | minimal ISO is almost there | 18:43:27 |
| emily | graphical ISO has thrown away many hundreds of megs of stuff that is in the default Plasma/etc. | 18:43:40 |
| ElvishJerricco | oh, right | 18:43:46 |
| ElvishJerricco | ugh | 18:43:50 |
| emily | I would focus on minimal ISO for that goal | 18:43:58 |
| emily | especially because you need to port stuff to stdenvNoCC and so on | 18:44:09 |
